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Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by dwd »

stefanfisk wrote: post #492
dwd wrote: post #475

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Currently have a 14" M2 Pro and a 13" M4 Air in front of me. The Pro keyboard is loud and clicky and I much prefer the softer feel of the Air's. Its also half the weight and the battery seems to last twice as long. Screen is 3024x1964 @254 pixel density for the Pro. The Air says it is 2560x1664 @224 but interestingly if I do a full screenshot the resultant image is 2940x1912(?). The Air screen seems brighter, but who…

What’s the scale factor on the Air? IIRC macOS renders at 2X even when doing fractional scaling.

In the default mode, the Mac draws on a canvas with 2940x1912px and downscales to fit the 2560x1660px screen.

That seems to be a very inexact 1.7415x, but there's nothing stopping you running at 2560x1660px.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by nektro »

leakycap wrote: post #416
nicoburns wrote: post #368

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For battery replacement you really want to take this to a local electronics repair shop (read the reviews so you find a good one). They'll do it same day or next day. It'll probably be around $200-$300 if you want an official battery. More like half that if you're willing to accept a 3rd party one.

Apple doesn't sell the official battery as a standalone part even to Authorized Apple repair shops, so anyone telling you they're installing an official battery is already lying to you or putting in something used. Even if a local shop somehow sourced a legit, new Apple battery, why wouldn't I go to the Apple Store if it's the same cost and would only be the battery? (For $299, Apple replaces the speakers, touchpad,…

but that's the problem, no? apple should offer to replace just the battery because getting you a whole new laptop creates a crap ton of e-waste.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by mrheosuper »

epolanski wrote: post #499
ksec wrote: post #156

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>USB-C chargers are everywhere now USB-C 15W Chargers may be everywhere, but higher power charger required for MacBook Pro is not. I would have agreed if the devices is using 10W or 20W where you could charge it slightly slower. Not for a 70W to 100W MacBook Pro though.

1. Premium phones and notebooks have been released with powerful chargers for years, so they are quite common in most households 2. a 15w charger will charge your macbook pro fine, slowly, but fine. I had to charge mine few times on a mobile one and you can work plugged or it will charge easy over night

> Premium phones and notebooks have been released with powerful chargers

Which phones released with charger that powerful enough to charge macbook when using. And must be PD compliance too.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by ivankra »

0xfaded wrote: post #52

To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

Funny you say that, as a long term Linux user who was in the exact same boat as you, I actually find Mac M4 my best Linux laptop purchase ever so far. I think what you're missing is its virtualization story. Put UTM on it, and you're back to a familiar environment, just on much nicer hardware. The first time I booted into my Linux desktop on it, I was blown away by how much snappier it felt compared to my ~5 year old top-of-the-line PC build.

I'm as much of a fan of Mac OS as the next Linux user here, but it's a very decent hypervisor and Stuff Just Works out of the box, for the most time. No more screwing around with half-baked qemu wrappers for me, vfio, virgl and what not. And running stuff without virtualization is a non-starter for me, I've been concerned about supply chain attacks before it became fashionable. Of course it would be even nicer if new Macs could run Linux natively, and I hope Asahi project will succeed with that, but until then I'm pretty happy running Linux desktop virtualized on it.

arm64 support is very decent across all the different OS now, I hardly miss Intel. I can even reasonably play most AAA games up to maybe mid-2010s on a Windows VM that's just a three finger swipe away from my main Linux desktop.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by sroussey »

astrange wrote: post #220
sroussey wrote: post #49

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It takes 3 months to manufacture a chip end to end. If you find a hardware bug once complete, you have to start over and you end up with a three month delay. Looks like the Pro and Max will be on a three month delay.

If you find a hardware bug that late, you're not fixing it and you're looking for chicken bits to flip. It is /extremely/ expensive to validate changes and remake the masks.

It may not have even gone to manufacture to find out there was an issue. And yeah, remaking masks takes time.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by StopDisinfo910 »

0x457 wrote: post #535
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Honestly, I get the GP completely. It’s not much the customisation hole. It’s just that MacOS is pretty meh as an OS and hilariously Snow Leopard, the first version I ever used, is my favourite amongst all the ones that followed. I like the hardware however. I really wish there was a good laptop using a competitive ARM SoC with great Linux support. I refuse to buy anything from Apple since they started the whole EU s…

Snow Leopard is probably the most loved released. I like Tahoe though. > I’m seriously considering only using a phone as my personal computing device now that Android takes convergence semi seriously. Not really. Google, in fact, very opposes that convergence because it will hurt ChromeBook and chomecast sales. Pretty much any android today and even Nexus phones let you go from usb-c to HDMI, but not Pixels. Because…

> Not really. Google, in fact, very opposes that convergence because it will hurt ChromeBook and chomecast sales.

They oppose convergence so much that they have just added a desktop environment when Android is plugged to a screen and a way to run Linux app with GPU acceleration.

Also Pixels natively support HDMI through usb-c and have done so for years. They do have terrible SoC however so I'm leaning more towards a Chinese phone personally.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by fragmede »

afandian wrote: post #408
Sharlin wrote: post #356

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> Task switching is.. not good? I don't get window previews I can switch through when I hover over the dock, but I do on Linux. That just sounds like being accustomed to one way of switching tasks, honestly. If I want previews, I use Expose (three-finger swipe up/down or ctrl-up/down). But mostly I just use cmd-tab and haven't really needed to see previews there. Because macOS switches between applications , not wind…

The app switching behaviour is really infuriating. Selecting a window and having all the app’s windows come to the fore, obscuring the window from another app is still annoying, 20 years on. And then when you full-screen a window, switch to another app for a moment, and then you can’t find it without delving into the ‘window‘ menu. First world problems. But daily annoyances.

Or just install alt tab to override that behavior and don't look back.

https://alt-tab-macos.netlify.app/

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by fragmede »

krisgenre wrote: post #491
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I ended up doing something similar a few years ago. Picked up a MacBook Pro M1 Max back when the M1 stuff was new to replace an aging Lenovo running Linux. I actually really loved my Lenovo + Linux, but the M1 was new and shiny and I desperately wanted better battery life. The hardware was great, but life on a Mac always felt a bit convoluted. Updating the OS was especially frustrating as a software developer because…

Exactly! I too bought the M1 Macbook Air in 2021 because of its great battery life. I wanted a powerful device for hacking on personal projects at home (I use a Dell running Ubuntu at work) but every time I opened it there was always something frustrating about OS X that made it unsuitable for dev stuff (at least for me) * Finder - this is my most hated piece of software. It doesn't display the full file path and no…

FWIW, Virtual box did get ported to Apple silicon, but long time Mac software developer Parallels has a consumer grade VM management software. Theirs supports directX 11 on arm windows, which is critical for getting usable performance out of it. Conversely, VMware's Mac offering does not, making 3d graphics on that painfully slow.

There's also a couple of open source VM utilities. UTM, tart, QEMU, Colima, probably others.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by willis936 »

Casteil wrote: post #302
fellowniusmonk wrote: post #106

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First rule of mac world is get the most memory you can afford. I got the cheapest m1 pro (the weird one they sold thats binned due to defects) with 32gb ram and everything runs awesome. Always get the most ram you can in mac world. Running a largish local LLM model is slowish but it does run. A mac out of memory is just a totally different machine than one with. probably because most of the devs building the software…

Part of me misses my OG base 14" M4 Pro. The battery on that thing was absolutely phenomenal - literal 12-14+ hours of real-world use. Not so much on the 14" M1 Max (64GB) that I upgraded to after about 2 yrs. 'Real-world idle' efficiency on the newer chips is the main reason I've got the (slight) itch to upgrade, but 64GB+ MBPs certainly don't come cheap.

Which is crazy because I recently moved to an M1 pro and the idle battery was at least twice as good as any windows x86 machine I've ever used.
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