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Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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If I think you're fluent, I might think you're an idiot when really you just don't understand. If I know they struggle with English, I can simplify my vocabulary, speak slower/enunciate, and check in occasionally to make sure I'm communicating in a way they can follow.

Both of those options are exactly what the writer wants to avoid though, and the reason they are using AI for grammar correction in the first place.

Thank you for demonstrating my point.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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We're that for genes, if you trust positivist materialism. (Recently it's also been forced to permit the existence of memes.) If that's all which is expected of a person - to be a copypastebot for vast forces beyond one's ken - why fault that person for choosing easy over hard? Because you're mad at them for being shit at the craft you've lovingly honed? They don't really know why they're there in the first place. If…

> If that's all which is expected of a person - to be a copypastebot for vast forces beyond one's ken - why fault that person for choosing easy over hard? I wouldn't be mad at them for that, though they might be faulted for not realizing that at some point, the copy/pasting will be done without them, as it's simpler and cheaper to ask ChatGPT directly rather than playing a game of telephone.

They are correctly following their incentives as they are presented to them. If you expect better of them, you need to state why, and what exactly.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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post #45

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You do realize English is one of India's two official languages, I hope?

I've been keeping a file of samples of unusually poor English I encounter in technical programming forums etc. It's almost entirely from people with Indian names. Over decades of experience I've come to notice patterns in how certain native languages inform specific common errors (for a trivial example, native German speakers typo "und" for "and" all the time, even if they have many years of experience with English a…

My observations largely match your own, and also applies more generally to non-technical interactions online. I help manage a group that runs a local LAN, and have run into both the general language issues, and people making long, incomprehensible requests that have major LLM smells.

I don't think it's just availability bias however, I think it's mostly a case of divergent linguistic evolution. In terms of the amount of people who speak English at an A level, India has the largest English speaking population in the world. With that, and a host of other native languages, came a rapid divergence from British English as various speech patterns, idioms, etc, are subsumed, merged, selectively rejected, and so on.

The main reason you don't see divergence to the same extent in other former colonies, even older colonies like Canada and the US, is that the vast majority of the colonists spoke English as a primary language.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

#555

Crazy how he doubled down by just pasting badger's answer into Chat and submitting the (hilariously obvious AI) reply: > Thanks for the quick review. You’re right — my attached PoC does not exercise libcurl and therefore does not demonstrate a cURL bug. I retract the cookie overflow claim and apologize for the noise. Please close this report as invalid. If helpful, I can follow up separately with a minimal C reproduc…

The '—' gave it away. No one types this character on purpose.

Academia certainly does, although, humorously, we also have professors making the same proclamation you do, while while en or em dashes in their syllabi.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

#556

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Have you watched All-In? Chamath Palihapitiya, who takes himself very seriously, is clearly just reading off something from ChatGPT most of the time. These Silicon Valley CEOs are hacks.

The word "hacks" is so charitable, when you could use "sociopaths". Russ Hanneman raised his kid with AI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGy5SGTuAGI&t=217s A company I'm funding, we call it The Lady. I press the button, and The Lady tells Aspen when it's time for bed, time to take a bath, when his fucking mother's here to pick him up. I get to be his friend, and she's the bad guy. I've disrupted fatherhood!

disrupted neglect

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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post #157

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I don't love emojis for this purely because they're graphically inconsistent; I can't style them with my terminal font or colour scheme. But I'm a huge fan of using various (single-width) unicode chars with colour to make terminal output a lot easier to parse, visually. Colour and iconography are extremely useful.

Hieroglyphics are vastly underused. 𓂫 ~ 𓃝 JdeBP𓆈localhost 𓅔 % 𓅭 pts/0

what isn't in the unicode standard these days???

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

#558
post #22

Why not verify these reports using LLMs first?

Once you're at the 12th month of trying to shoehorn LLMs in several use cases at your job, you'll find the answer to this question: BECAUSE YOU CAN'T FUCKING TRUST THOSE LYING HALLUCINATING PIECES OF SHIT.

Clearly you just set an LLM to respond to messages that appear to be written by LLMs, then disregard that thread from that point on.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

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post #284

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Yea but you can always tell it’s an Indian because they write differently from actual English speakers.

Indian English is not only a perfectly good dialect, it's one of the most popular worldwide. It doesn't have the prestige of the King's English, but I'd personally prefer it to some of the other colonies'.

>Indian English is not only a perfectly good dialect, it's one of the most popular worldwide.

Sure, but a lot of times it's not really Indian English, it's English vocab mixed and matched with grammar rules from other Indian languages like Hindi or Urdu or Bengali. I've been on conference calls where Indians from different regions were speaking mutually unintelligible versions of English and had to act as a translator from english to english.

Re: You did this with an AI and you do not understand what you're doing here

#560

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I feel like ‘actual English’ comes off as unnecessarily mean here. There is no ‘actual English’ there are just different regional and cultural variations. You may personally like one or another better, you may find some particular varieties easier or harder to understand, but that doesn’t make those people any more or less ‘actual’ English speakers than you are. They are ‘actually’ speaking English, just like you. If…

Actual English is when you speak in the spirit of the language, not just the grammatical and syntactical structures. It should be free of speech patterns from other languages and more assimilated.

I think people are downing this because it comes off as if don't have an appreciation for different dialects, but you're making a key point. There are a lot of people that 'speak english' by using english vocab with their native tongue's grammar and that is different (and less intelligible) than speaking a recognized dialect.
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