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I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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Apple is a hostage of its own marketing. A modular iphone that has an easy to replace battery, easy to replace screen and is maybe 2mm thicker to account for it? That would be a sellout. A convertible Macbook Air with a touch screen? It would be sold out. Neckband-style airpods with all-day battery life? Might not sell out, but would be popular. A best-in-class TV powered by Apple TV? Would probably sell well. But al…

> Neckband-style airpods with all-day battery life? Might not sell out, but would be popular. I didn’t know that it was exactly what I needed.

Conveniently, Apple does already sell these. They're called the Beats Flex.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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These, “just change the firmware” comments are silly. I should get basic phone functionality from my phone out of the box with exactly ZERO effort. I can use an iPhone without an Apple account. I cannot use an Android phone without a Google account unless they changed that in the last few years.

Both Android and iphones require an account to download apps I believe. Am I mistaken here? Other than that they can be used in the same way without accounts. In fact, with Android an email account suffices and giving your phone number is "opt-in". Apple forces you to give your phone number to create an account last time I checked. Also no F-droid on iphones? But the iphone is the better "phone" experience because th…

Android does not require an account to download apps, as grandparent pointed out.

I haven't "signed in" to Android phone in 10 years.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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Sure, but how many other products have a feature like that? I live in a very remote area. I NEED Starlink because it's my only choice for internet. I NEED a big 4x4 because if there's some particularly bad rain I'd be trapped in my home. If a tree falls in the nearby forest and nobody is there to hear it our power still goes out because it fell on a powerline and we NEED solar panels with battery backup or we can't f…

Sounds like you'd be better off living in a less remote area.

The positives far outweigh the negatives.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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So, turn off your firewall if you don't want to be protected.

Do modern OSes have services listening on external IPs without explicitly told to still?

I think to the parents point, everything should be wide open, all the features possible, and let him configure. By not listening, isn't that 'over-simplifying', let the user decide.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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Locking down the OS so you can't install or uninstall functionality at all is not simplicity.

It is if Grandma keeps downloading scams and installing them.

All the downvotes are really missing the point of Apple.

Simple exactly does mean less features. That is what you are buying into. Less features, easy to find, no 'ambiguity'.

If you want a ton of feature and flexibility, you go elsewhere.

But don't criticize Apple for being locked down, when that is exactly what they are selling.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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I used to go through phases where I would try this. I gave Windows + WSL a shot. I gave embracing the Apple ecosystem a shot. I gave GNOME a shot. I gave KDE a shot. I was even crazy enough to give ChromeOS as my daily driver a shot. And so on and so forth. I found every single time that it just wasn't worth it. There was always some critical failure that was either completely underlooked or a 20 year old bug/shortco…

I love how contradictory this comment is. "There was always some critical failure... this setup isn't perfect... things really only break when..." Everybody has different needs and something you don't care about on Windows or Mac or Gnome might be critically important for someone else.

There's nothing contradictory here. Not once do I say that I've found the best solution. I merely reached a point where more effort & time spent on this problem will only give me a worse solution. And of course this is merely for myself and everybody has different needs. I never claimed otherwise. The crux of the issue is that we all disagree on what's good and bad, what's necessary and pointless, and too many people are just willingly accepting what's being given to them even if it's worse by their own metrics.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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I have an iPhone 16 Pro Max and an older version of this battery I use and when I travel: https://a.co/d/3g3F4eC It can charge my MacBook Aur M2 once or my iPhone 16 Pro Max 3-4x. The iPhone itself can easily last flying and layovers all day.

https://a.co/d/igikGeL I'm not sure how many times it would charge our phones. One day I think we did 4 different ones without issue. When you're standing around at a BMX track, the functionality here actually made a lot of sense. It's not travel friendly in the same sense. We have named ours "the cube". Phone dead? Grab the cube. Tires soft? Grab the cube. Left the lights on in the car? You got it, the cube.

Yeah I can’t take that on a plane…

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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Regarding the iPhone 17 Pro: > People who have no use for all these pro video recording features shouldn’t waste their money on it. Unless they want a big chunky iPhone with the best camera array and/or have money to burn. I feel like people who “want the best camera array and have money to burn” probably describes a significant percentage of HN readers. I’m honestly pretty excited that they’ve finally put the larger…

>I personally don’t consider the iPhone 17 Pro to be too big or chunky. I’m generally happy to sacrifice an extra millimeter of thickness for better battery life, and enjoy the usability of larger screen sizes. The difference in people's opinions about this are interesting. I've got larger than average hands (e.g. XL rubber gloves are a tight fit) and don't understand how normal people can handle large phones. I just…

> I hate this statement. I don't care if I can afford an expensive device if it doesn't provide the value over the lifetime of the product. Why do phones that only last 2-3 years cost as much as my laptop that can last longer than that and do so much more?

Hate is a strong word. Why should my opinions on iPhone upgrades provoke feelings of hatred in you?

I also disagree with the premise. My current phone is 4 years old, and as I mentioned I plan to give it to someone who will probably use it for another 3+ years. Or I could have traded it in or resold it to a someone else who can use it. So I wouldn't say modern phones last 2-3 years, more like 7+ years. The iPhone 6s, which was released 10 years ago, just got a security update from Apple this month - so someone must still be using it.

I also disagree that laptops can do more than smartphones. Smartphones have different hardware like GPS, cellular radios, and more advanced cameras. They are also more portable (and miniaturization is expensive). And recently smartphone hardware is just as powerful as can be found in many laptops. Apple is even rumored to be making a low-cost laptop powered by the same A-series chips that they use in iPhones. A smartphone is not necessarily any better or worse than a laptop, it's just a computer in a different form factor that excels in different use cases.

> it doesn't provide the value over the lifetime of the product

It does provide value to me. As a photography hobbyist, I'm primarily interested in the camera updates (side note: if you compare iPhone prices to standalone camera prices like the recently-released Fujifilm X Half at $849, I think the iPhone 17 Pro is actually a pretty good value when judged solely on its merits as a tool for taking photos and video). But there are a bunch of other nice-to-have updates (wifi 7, bigger battery, brighter screen, etc). If there were no value to me in upgrading, then I wouldn't upgrade. I'm not saying that people should upgrade every few years even if there is no compelling reason, but rather that the financial burden of upgrading every few years is minimal for lots of people.

I'd also point out that the iPhone Pro line is a premium device, and very few people need one (myself included). Apple sells other iPhone models starting at $599 (iPhone 16e) and going up from there. Or you can buy a refurb iPhone 14 on Amazon for $330, and probably get several years of use out of it at least. Or you can go with Samsung or Motorola and get a brand new, totally functional smartphone for under $200 (though these budget phones will probably turn into e-waste a lot sooner than a new iPhone). If you don't see any value in shelling out $1100 for the latest and greatest iPhone, then there's no need to. When it comes time to buy a new smartphone, I'm sure there will be something out there with a price and feature set that makes sense for you.

Value is very subjective depending on personal preferences/needs and budget. I don't see any point in hating that fact.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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Phones in general just feel like theyve topped out. All the specs inch upwards sure but if I swop my 14 for a 17 there doesn’t really seem to be some big new feature/use case that would enable. Browse hn 40% harder?

iPhone 14 to 17 is still a solid step up. +10 hours battery. 120hz display. 48mp cameras vs 12, way better front camera... and USB-C. But if this is too minor a bump for you then just hold onto the 14? One of the great things about these recent phones is how long they last if looked after. I'm getting 17 after skipping 6 generations with my XR and it's been great this whole time. Only really upgrading now due to crap…

Looked at the monthly payments and seems I’m getting a 17 too after all. Gap between that and SIM only payments is small.

Which feels suspiciously rigged in itself but ok whatever

> skipping 6 generations

Nice. Haven’t ever managed more than 5

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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I love how contradictory this comment is. "There was always some critical failure... this setup isn't perfect... things really only break when..." Everybody has different needs and something you don't care about on Windows or Mac or Gnome might be critically important for someone else.

There's nothing contradictory here. Not once do I say that I've found the best solution. I merely reached a point where more effort & time spent on this problem will only give me a worse solution. And of course this is merely for myself and everybody has different needs. I never claimed otherwise. The crux of the issue is that we all disagree on what's good and bad, what's necessary and pointless, and too many people…

Are too many people willingly accepting what is being given to them or do they actually have different needs that are almost entirely met by these products that they can't achieve easily with an entirely different ecosystem?
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