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Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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The multiple examples of legal residents being detained for their Pro-palestinian activism? So the Norwegian's account can't be trusted but the CPD's can? Why? Also most drugs are not federal crimes and it sounds like he wasn't arrested for it, so there's no record and therefore no reason to prevent lawful entry.

Let's ask the Norwegian if there was in fact a picture of his drug paraphernalia on his phone. That should help us resolve the issue. If there was that picture, it would be totally weird that he only mentioned his JD Vance meme and not the drug picture

Again photos of illicit materials on your phone is not grounds for refusal of entry into a country. There is no law for that.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Don't make excuses for this abuse. The administration now in power in the US has been very clear - they oppose free speech and do not respect the constitution or Bill of Rights.

Wow, what an amazing surprise!

https://x.com/CBP/status/1937651325354795444

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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When I say it’s possible, I don’t think that it’s the official CBP policy, but I have had enough interactions with power tripping cops to believe that it’s possible that the kid was disrespectful to the wrong guy. Customs agents have wide latitude in determining who can enter, and I could see a situation where an already angry agent saw the Vance thing, got even angrier and said you’re outta here.

The situation could certainly have been escalated by a single officer in a bad mood but there must have been some flag that caused him to be pulled aside in the first place. That doesn't mean there was any real wrong doing on the part of the guy but with many of other similar claims against the US border agents mistreating EU citizens you do see some reason why they might have been spooked if you dig a little deeper.…

Who possibly could have seen that edit coming?

Not the hundreds of “highly intelligent and immune to manipulation” HackerNews readers apparently.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

#554

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You don't seem to be responding to anything in the parent comment, but it's still worth pointing out: the "admitted drug use" was simply smoking weed while in California a few years ago.

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Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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> "placed in a cell" I think the title is deficient and should be based on this higher-weighted fact, over the weaker phrasing "refused entry". "Tourist jailed without trial for possessing political cartoon"

He was placed in a cell before they found the Vance image. He also said the border guard didn’t like that image or an image of him with a wooden pipe. I don’t doubt that it’s possible he was denied because of the Vance image and that in itself says something terrible about the current state of affairs. But I think it’s more likely that he was stopped based on some other red flag like not having a return ticket and de…

Important to note that the only source of information we have right now is the deported person's account of events.

He does say he was detained PRIOR to the picture being found. Being detained if far more relevant than being asked about a photo.

It's also important to note that Border Control will not tell you WHY you're being denied entry, so the person ascribing it to the meme is speculating based on being asked about it.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

#556

Update: this story was debunked and is false, according to CBP directly: https://x.com/CBP/status/1937651325354795444

Debunked is a strong word. Why trust CBP more than this person? It's not like the current government is known for never lying.

I wish people could have applied this thinking to the last administration for even more heinous attacks on free speech, hehe. The media has proven itself to lie more around the nature of these controversies before seeking a credible source to begin with.

That should be more concerning here, I think.

In any case, I think with CBP here, it's either take it or leave it.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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post #186

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And nearly all "rights" are rights of citizens , not visitors...

So foreigners have no rights in the US?? You clearly do not understand the law, at all.

You clearly do not understand how to read, at all.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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There are many more armed services in the US than police/military. Dept. of Education has a SWAT team. Amtrak has armed force. US Park service has one. Really, there are so many of them.

Those are all examples of police agencies with police powers. This is in contrast to TSA officers screening your luggage, who have no police powers and are not police. To add another example to your list -- the TSA also has their own police (e.g. Federal Air Marshal Service), but they don't work the line screening your baggage.

They are not police either. They are just armed men at government service. TSA inspectors in particular are not armed, but that's immaterial - there are other armed government workers around that could be used if needed. Police is only a tiny part of government's armed forces. It is most visible because everybody seen the police drive around, but most people never saw DeptEd SWAT team, but that doesn't change the fact a lot of those exist and are around, just a bit out of sight.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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I did get a weird interaction in China fwiw. Let in fine but at one point i sat down to have lunch at a restaurant and 2 English speaking police officers sat down at my table and started asking if i was doing well etc. I just chatted making sure not to say anything negative about the government, talked about tourist sites and they left, they were fine, no issue. Just a weird interaction. I guess it's a routine part o…

> I guess it's a routine part of China's paranoia. They definitely do do weird things to check if tourists are causing trouble in some way i guess. I’m guessing you actually did something suspicious or illegal without realizing it. A common and simple example of this is taking pictures where it’s technically forbidden — airports, military buildings (these aren’t always obvious to visitors), religious sites, etc. Anot…

… or they wanted to practice their English.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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post #406

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I'm quite sure that turkish police doesn't have time to waste checking the social accounts of people.

ROTFL. I'm quite sure that's their main job, finding out who are the adversaries of the regime.

Do you have any sources of them actually doing it or is it just a feeling?
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