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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Ahead of time, and from the inside, it looks and sounds like 'restoring proper order'. Afterwards, and from the outside, it looks and sounds like ... well read some history about attempts to 'restore proper order'. The outcome and progression is entirely and sadly predictable. It's been about 80 years since WWII. Are we doomed to repeat this on an 80 year cycle, when the last generation who went through this passes f…

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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Made up and staged need for troops. Check. Hyped antagonism between both sides on purpose. Check. Remember Ghorman

Not everything you dont like is nazism. Burning the city? Check Incopetent mayor not doing its job? check Incopetent governor watching the caos unfold? Check.

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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Why?

Because cheap immigrant labor is the backbone of this country in many ways, especially when it comes to harvesting and processing our food supply. They could stop immigration tomorrow if they wanted to. $10,000 per person per day fine to agriculture companies. They don't want to. They are hate-filled people who want the poorest most vulnerable people to suffer. Just like Jesus would have wanted.

I find it interesting how the same political crowd that pushes hardest for workers’ rights and higher minimum wages will also turn around and seriously argue that illegal immigrants are needed (to be paid under the table below minimum wage), otherwise food prices would spike.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Because this isn't about that. This is about having a perceived enemy that only you can fight. If it wasn't immigrants (legal or illegal), it would be a different group, within or outside of your borders. It's fascism 101.

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That's because of racism for two hundred years that made it so there was only one gym for the kids in that area.

If it's a true story. Your comment history reads like conservative talking points fabricated by someone pretending to be black or pretending to care about black people. Specifically not like a black conservative.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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As a Hungarian, told my friends in November: "the election results, Project 2025, the newly elected president, etc... is the same old story we have already seen with Orban 10+y ago. But don't worry, the US has a much better established democracy, shit can't really go as wrong as in Eastern-Europe" Well, I'm not so sure about that last part anymore.

Who was in charge before Orban? Is there a parallel with biden being a ~ vegetable by the time he left? (not being sarcastic fwiw)

Before his second term came, it was the Socialist party in coalition with the (left) Liberals[1] for 8 years. I don't recall to have an equivalent of Sleepy Joe, but one of the early left wing PM certainly seemed a bit dumb.

The "real" problem was that they had too many (Russia-influenced / supported?) ex-communists and some of them were doing corrupt business in the 100k USD range; Of course this is already forgotten, Orban's friends' 100M+ USD ranging businesses seem to be fine with the voters. Not to mention Orban's and the foreign minister's regular visit to Putin.

Relevant search keywords: "Hungary Orban" + any of the following: "stadium", "castle", "rich meszaros", "corruption"

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Hungarian_parliamentary_e...

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Politics aside, LA just can't seem to catch a break. Floods last year, fires earlier this year and now this. That said, what the current administration is doing is almost like they're following a manual other countries followed on their road to nationalistic decline and all the right people in places of power seem to know this. I wonder if they're ready for it? My observation is that the previous administration had f…

> All of humanity might suffer, at least that's my fear.

Suffer compared to what? That's the alternative? Number 1 stays number 1?

The world works in peaks and troughs, swings and roundabouts. What goes up must come down. Time marches on, change happens. This comes with suffering, but is also the definition of progress.

Nothing is the best forever, and the one's at the top who don't acknowledge that are the ones with the hardest fall ahead. That applies to complacent SV leadership as much as it applies to the average American citizen.

I can't fault this way of thinking about the world: change is inevitable, you have to roll with it. If I accept it though, the idea of "planned decline of America" is interesting to think about. If you're at the top, decline is inevitable, it's the only direction. What's the only thing you can do to mitigate the pain of the inevitable? Try plan to work with it. Not sure how I feel about this way of thinking, it feels pragmatic if nothing else.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because this isn't about that. This is about having a perceived enemy that only you can fight. If it wasn't immigrants (legal or illegal), it would be a different group, within or outside of your borders. It's fascism 101.

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Sorry, but this is both hyperbolic and so low on details it's hard to understand the problem. Migrants, so you mean basically homeless people? Low income, so a big chunk of the problem is that minimum wage is not enough to survive without help? (That applies to everyone, not migrants) What does being black have to do with that? What do you mean the kids have nowhere else to go? There are so many kids with no after school programs or any kind.

Is there actually more real context missing here?

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because this isn't about that. This is about having a perceived enemy that only you can fight. If it wasn't immigrants (legal or illegal), it would be a different group, within or outside of your borders. It's fascism 101.

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I think this is an example of different branches of government working against each other. The feds want them here working as invisible slaves hence the crackdown. The local government has to appease the vocal activists so they put them up in public spaces to the detriment of other uses.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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We need more like you to teach how to do this right. I tell my friends that we need to look to Hong Kong and France in case the protests move to Texas.

In Texas, if you drop rocks on someone or destroy their property, they are, in many instances, free to use deadly force to stop you. Such "protests" would be much rarer and shorter in Texas.

One 17-year-old in Kenosha put a stop to these "protests" going to places where Americans are allowed to defend themselves.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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It's clear that many commenters here are operating from completely different factual bases, in terms of who did what, and in what order. Fog of war seems to be in effect.

Correct. Lots of emotions in here too. I wonder if this is an appropriate HN post.

Last I checked, emotions aren't banned from HN
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