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Google is winning on every AI front

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Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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post #209

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Uber had their first profitable year in 2023, and their profit margin was 22% in 2024. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/uber-technologies-full-2024-e...

They are still FAR in the red. Technically have never turned a profit. Among other famous companies.

Uber is a profitable company both in 2023 and - to the tune of billions of dollars - in 2024. Please read their financials if you doubt this statement.

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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As long as Google continues to hamstring themselves with censorship for no reason, I can't use their products. The other day I asked gemini 2.5 pro "which british ceo said that his company's products were bad" and the response was > I'm just a language model, so I can't help you with that. https://g.co/gemini/share/cb3afc3e7f78 Chatgpt 4o correctly identified the guy as Ratner and provided the relevant quotes.

It seems more likely just a weird bug considering that I can't understand at all why this topic would be considered controversial or censure worthy.

(casually googling this same line just now does reveal an AI suggestion with the correct answer)

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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Nice to see that they added that, but that section wasn't in the article when I wrote that comment.

It was there.

To be fair to thunderbird120, the author of this piece made edits at some point. See https://archive.is/K4n9E. No discussion of the recent TPU releases, or TPUs for all, for that matter.

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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Depending how you count, parent comment is accurate. Hardware doesn't just appear. 4 years of planning and R&D for the first generation chip is probably right.

I was wrong, ironically because Google's AI overview says it's 15 years if you search. The article it's quoting from appears to be counting the creation of TensorFlow as an "origin".

That's awesome. :) and even that article is off. They probably were thinking of DistBelief, the predecessor to TF.

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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Is this an example of how to integrate ads into an AI response?

Could be, if an AI actually wrote it.

Sounds like a generic AI response, though maybe I'm being too harsh, the AI response would probably be longer and more detailed. So, you want to tell us why it's so much better than Claude?

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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I wouldn't even say Gemini Pro 2.5 is the best model. Certainly not when you do multimodal or function calling, which is what actually matters in industry applications. Plain chatbots are nice, but I don't think they will decide who wins the race. Google is also no longer in the mindset to really innovate. You'll hear surprisingly similar POVs from ex-Googlers and ex-OpenAI guys. I'd actually say OpenAI still has an…

> Certainly not when you do multimodal or function calling Who is? (Genuine question, it's hard to keep up given how quickly the field moves.)

If you want an LLM to interface with other systems, function calling is absolutely essential.

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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post #297

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I think the HN crowd widely overestimates how many people are even passingly familiar with the LLM landscape much less use any of the tools regularly.

My wife, the farthest you can get from the HN crowd, literally goes to tears when faced with Excel or producing a Word doc and she is a regular user of copilot and absolutely raves about it. Very unusual for her to take up new tech like this and put it to use but she uses it for everything now. Horse is out of the barn.

> My wife, the farthest you can get from the HN crowd...

She is literally married into the HN crowd.

I think the real AI breakthrough is how to monetize the high usage users.

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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As long as Google continues to hamstring themselves with censorship for no reason, I can't use their products. The other day I asked gemini 2.5 pro "which british ceo said that his company's products were bad" and the response was > I'm just a language model, so I can't help you with that. https://g.co/gemini/share/cb3afc3e7f78 Chatgpt 4o correctly identified the guy as Ratner and provided the relevant quotes.

It seems more likely just a weird bug considering that I can't understand at all why this topic would be considered controversial or censure worthy. (casually googling this same line just now does reveal an AI suggestion with the correct answer)

I could even see Gemini 2.5 googling the right things and "thinking" about Gerald Ratner before it abruptly censored itself at the last moment.

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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post #461

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I assume they mean the profits in the past couple years are dwarfed by the losses that came before. Looking at the company's entire history, instead of a single FY.

Maybe? But that's not what anyone means when they describe a company as profitable or not. I was guessing they meant something like the net profit only came from a weird tax thing or something.

Seems like the difference between a profitable investment and a profitable company.

They invested tens of billions of dollars in destroying the competition to be able to recently gain a return on that investment. One could either write off that previous spending or calculate it into the totality of "Uber". I don't know how Silicon Valley economics works but, presumably, a lot of that previous spending is now in the form of debt which must be serviced out of the current profits. Not that I'm stating that taking on debt is wrong or anything.

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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post #303

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My sense in London is that they’re pretty comparable. I’ll use whichever is more convenient.

They're usually a bit more expensive here than a taxi. It can be beneficial because sometimes they have deals, and I sometimes take one when I have to book it in advance or when I'm afraid there will be delays with a corrsponding high cost. Though Uber tend to hit me with congestion charges then too. At least with a taxi I can ask them to take a different route. The problem with the uber drivers is that they don't kn…

> they sometimes fleece tourists

yeah thanks no, I'm paying for an Uber. For all the complaints over Ubers business practices, it's hard not to forget how bad taxis were. Regulatory capture is a clear failure mode of capitalism and the free market and that is no more shown than by the taxis cab industry.

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