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To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by mrbadguy »

jeroenhd wrote: post #315
coldtea wrote: post #101

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> I also have a severe dislike of the Tesla updating process. There being an "updating process" is already a huge red flag for a car.

Cars have had computers for decades now. Before the age of OTA updates, whenever one of those computers had a problem, a recall was issued and you needed to physically take the car to a dealer, probably pay some kind of service fee, and have them plug something into a hidden slot somewhere to flash an update. Other times they'd just swap out the physical computer (call it a "part") and throw out the buggy one. I don'…

That’s simply untrue. The old way was definitely better because, with OTA, the manufacturers will succumb to the usual web-software bullshit of “we don’t have to sell them something that actually works now, we’ll just push the update later”. I mean, it’s a car, I can easily take it to a garage and do so for anything else that might be wrong (if I can’t fix it myself) so I don’t see the problem in doing so for software patches. OTA doesn’t solve many issues for me but it sure as hell will create new ones.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by rcMgD2BwE72F »

misja111 wrote: post #361
rcMgD2BwE72F wrote: post #66

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>Tesla sales are plummeting all over the world currently, also in the US. No. Sales plummeted right before they released the long-awaited refresh of the Model Y. By far their best selling model. We have access to weekly sales numbers in China, and guess what, sales are going through the roof again. This refresh was introduced globally (all factories converted simultaneously), which is a first for Tesla.

Well last month they didn't exactly go through the roof in China. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/teslas...

Obviously. The new Juniper version was launched January 24, 2025.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ6e4-1uuGA

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by manmal »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #540
manmal wrote: post #535

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It’s a good proxy for care taken and fs given during production.

Plenty of cars for you then. Only pity you pay 2x price for 1/2 features. But at least it looks good!

That’s IMO cope from Tesla fans. I’d take a KIA/Hyundai or Audi anytime over a Tesla.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by starbugs »

bayindirh wrote: post #549
dzhiurgis wrote: post #521

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Without mileage this data is worth ZERO. Other than lights, the problem with control arms and brakes are known. Brake service is recommended and ignored because unlike VW, et all - there's not stealership model to charge you $500 a year for worthless maintenance.

No it doesn't. Service intervals are dependent on mileage. You should be detecting the problems and fixing them at regular servicing. Ignoring brake checks is endangering life. Even though you have regenerative braking, brakes are used way more often in automatic and gearbox-free cars due to driving dynamics. Just because there's no so-called stealership, ignoring brakes is not justifiable. So, I can mark Tesla as an…

You can mark whatever you want with your bright and bold marker. It doesn't make your argument more sound.

If you are worried about the brakes, brake hard occasionally to avoid rust.

Alternatively, you can charge the car up to near 100% if you go on a roadtrip. Regen will be limited initially so you will be able to use your brakes without braking hard.

If you are still worried about the brakes, go to an independent car mechanic regularly and have them checked.

It's as easy as that.

Nobody is preventing you from doing service even though it's not deemed necessary by the vendor.

Your comment doesn't seem to be about the actual issue but about some form of generalized Tesla brand hatred.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by lostlogin »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #520
voidUpdate wrote: post #391

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After doing the "weird gesture", rather than apologising for doing something that many people interpreted as a nazi gesture, he made a load of crappy puns about it involving the names of various high-ranking nazi leaders

Maybe he shouldn't be apologizing for every unhinged accusation he gets? Maybe the accusers should apologize? Maybe they will come crawling on their knees in few months time to do so? I don't know, but what I do like is that wokeism is slowly curing so he may have been onto something.

Do you attribute the curing of wokeism (whatever that is) to Musk making Nazi salute? I’m missing a key part of what is going on.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by bayindirh »

starbugs wrote: post #554
bayindirh wrote: post #549

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it doesn't. Service intervals are dependent on mileage. You should be detecting the problems and fixing them at regular servicing. Ignoring brake checks is endangering life. Even though you have regenerative braking, brakes are used way more often in automatic and gearbox-free cars due to driving dynamics. Just because there's no so-called stealership, ignoring brakes is not justifiable. So, I can mark Tesla as an…

You can mark whatever you want with your bright and bold marker. It doesn't make your argument more sound. If you are worried about the brakes, brake hard occasionally to avoid rust. Alternatively, you can charge the car up to near 100% if you go on a roadtrip. Regen will be limited initially so you will be able to use your brakes without braking hard. If you are still worried about the brakes, go to an independent c…

I'm not a person who keeps grudges, or hates things in general. I just take note what companies do, and change my choices based on my observation. VAG also took a good hit after their dieselgate scandal, and not recovered much in my mind, for example. Stellantis is also not doing well, and I was considering a vehicle from them, so I'm not so sure anymore.

I don't live in a flat city, of course I'm worried and aware of my brakes all times, and know how to condition and refresh my brakes.

My problem is Tesla's service policies, like ignoring "recommended" checks on a car. Oh sorry, I can go to an independent mechanic to further spend my non-existing time, you're right.

What's more interesting is Tesla not having brake pad thickness warnings, which our old 1999 Fiat Tipo had.

Being apologetic about problems doesn't make your arguments any more sound, either.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by sshine »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #540
manmal wrote: post #535

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a good proxy for care taken and fs given during production.

Plenty of cars for you then. Only pity you pay 2x price for 1/2 features. But at least it looks good!

What features are Teslas missing out on?

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by voidUpdate »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #520
voidUpdate wrote: post #391

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After doing the "weird gesture", rather than apologising for doing something that many people interpreted as a nazi gesture, he made a load of crappy puns about it involving the names of various high-ranking nazi leaders

Maybe he shouldn't be apologizing for every unhinged accusation he gets? Maybe the accusers should apologize? Maybe they will come crawling on their knees in few months time to do so? I don't know, but what I do like is that wokeism is slowly curing so he may have been onto something.

You don't need to apologise for every accusation you get. You should probably address a widespread belief that you are making very offensive gestures, clarify what you meant and apologise for the confusion. Also could you define "wokeism" for me? Everyone seems to be using a different definition so its hard to know what people actually mean when they say it

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by tobyhinloopen »

guappa wrote: post #443
mcv wrote: post #374

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Our new car beeps constantly for unclear reasons and doesn't explain why. It's not helpful and I'd like it to stop.

My toyota is constantly beeping. I especially love the collision detection that goes "BIBIBIBIBIBI" and the screen goes red saying "BREAK NOW!". All of this happens regularly when I'm dodging parked cars in small streets at very low speed. The message appears about half a second too late anyway (assuming I have instant reaction time, which I doubt). I'm glad it doesn't break automatically at least. Also it reads spee…

My volvo DID brake automatically and it pissed me off multiple times.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Post by starbugs »

bayindirh wrote: post #556
starbugs wrote: post #554

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can mark whatever you want with your bright and bold marker. It doesn't make your argument more sound. If you are worried about the brakes, brake hard occasionally to avoid rust. Alternatively, you can charge the car up to near 100% if you go on a roadtrip. Regen will be limited initially so you will be able to use your brakes without braking hard. If you are still worried about the brakes, go to an independent c…

I'm not a person who keeps grudges, or hates things in general. I just take note what companies do, and change my choices based on my observation. VAG also took a good hit after their dieselgate scandal, and not recovered much in my mind, for example. Stellantis is also not doing well, and I was considering a vehicle from them, so I'm not so sure anymore. I don't live in a flat city, of course I'm worried and aware o…

> I just take note what companies do

No. You are obviously not doing that. You take note of what the media emphasizes in an obvious press campaign that oversimplifies the actual information to a degree where it becomes borderline useless in order to reach political goals. This is not the same.

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