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Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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I'll share unpopular advice here: it would be wise to adopt a more Stoic approach to the present crisis.

The events unfolding now are an expected progression of choices made years ago.

The choices made now will likewise determine the future. Not all of the current situation is under your control, however. Take whatever wise action you can, but beyond this, judge the outcome neither good nor bad. As hard as it may be -- because we love this country and the ideals for which it should stand, but this is precisely the mechanism which the forces of chaos are using against the system.

They're trying to fatigue you. Don't let them.

It makes sense to examine several likewise unpopular but nevertheless patently correct facts:

1) Every nation ceases to be. Every nation that ever was has fallen, merged, disappeared. This one cannot be different -- and that is OK, because this is what nations do. This does not at all mean you should do nothing. Quite the contrary. It does however mean refraining from placing superlative negative value judgements upon the events happening now. Work towards indifference in your mind, and act according to your wisdom and conscience.

2) You and all other individuals alive today will perish eventually. We all return to nature when our time comes. You were once purely of nature and not of human society -- you came into the world not knowing language, not knowing what nations are, what democracy is, why any of this matters. You were taught what it means to be a modern human. And we all return to the earth, to this mysterious and unfathomably ancient layer of living matter upon this world. So your efforts while you are alive are by nature limited, by necessity bounded. You can cause great change, and you should, according to what you are uniquely suited and drawn to do. Beyond this however, the rest of humanity -- which as a group, unlike individuals, may survive indefinitely -- will have responsibility over the rest.

Hope this perespetive benefits someone. It is the precise opposite of modern media, which wants you to feel outraged with every headline.

When Socrates was informed that his son had died, his response was:

"I knew that my son was mortal."

His mind was rational enough to accept such seemingly mundane but nevertheless consequential knowledge, at every level of his mind. And the effect? When disaster came, he did still suffer, but far less than most other people.

Because it was not a disaster. Merely an outcome of that which when examined closely, was to be expected based on knowledge of mortality.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#552

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User groups you would be interested in get hijacked by whatever the overall sentiment of Reddit is. Threads that aren't political suddenly get political for no reason. It's completely dead in there - content quality is brutally low.

I just bookmark subreddits for things I'm interested in, and visit them individually. I hardly ever see any political content doing that.

Politicisation happens, though slowly. Therewasanattempt used to be funny pictures/videos and is now purely TDS. My city's sub used to have useful local content and is now about 50% national politics.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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> NYT is just as blatant as Fox News is to you After this past election cycle I don't see how people can make that comment with a straight face. Media in general is very right leaning. Some like CNN and NYT are maybe slightly more left than far right fox news, but there aren't many "left leaning" mass market news sources that are essentially felating one party for millions of people. NYT and CNN, etc are all very cri…

"media is in general is very right leaning" Wow. You don't need to be very right leaning to feel the complete opposite. I'm simply amazed someone could feel that way, as nearly all media is very left-leaning (to my perspective).

Your perspective may be miscalibrated. Organizations earning all their income from large corporations are unlikely to propagate socialism.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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I don’t have too much issue with Reddits politics at the moment, but I do think it’s odd that such a powerful platform in society is managed by volunteer (mostly) anonymous moderators. I will be explicit in that I am not condoning doxxing Reddit mods. I just don’t think we’d be fine with this in normal day to day life.

Do you know the editors at your local TV stations? The local radio stations? The people who curate the datasets that train the YouTube recommendation model?

> Do you know the editors at your local TV stations? The local radio stations?

Not personally, but their names are public, and if they were taking backhanders there would be a scandal. Remember the payola lawsuits?

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#556

I don't have outrage fatigue. Outrages are outrages and they are what they are. Are there many exaggerations and fake outrages? Sure. But things like the USA's current constitutional crisis are real. What I struggle with isn't fatigue at outrage, it's knowing what to do about it. I think violence is going to become more common, but I don't particularly think it will be effective. So less so than outrage, it's the fee…

The current situation is designed to disregulate all people in the United States and create disengagement and defeatism.

The best advice I've heard so far is to prioritize self-regulation BEFORE engaging in reaction/action to the news. Inform yourself to your capacity and lock in when you can, but lock in you must, or the crisis will continue growing.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#558

One thing to consider for those of us who are more sensitive to online outrage is to just quit social media all together. I’m technically gen z and I’ve been off of social media (aside from HN, WhatsApp and discord) for years and you wouldn’t believe how great it’s been for my overall state of mind. Reddit, instagram, X, Facebook, TikTok, LinkedIn, Threads, etc are all the equivalent of digital junk food and I’d argu…

We have to be aware of our disregulation as they try to swarm us with seemingly unstoppable energy. That is the point onslaught.

Take a breather, compose your emotions, take off hours or a days, but then re-engage, interact, observe, document, etc.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

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Oh please. Posts from /r/conservative show up in /r/popular all the time, and it remains a hotbed of conspiracy theorists, grifters, and old fashioned racists.

The ratio is what matters. Easily 95%+ of r/all is far-left content, typically with "rage-bait" headlines that fail to expose the nuance of the situation.

This can't be healthy, for two reasons:

(1) The health of the company. As an investor in RDDT, I am not a fan of the site's landing page alienating 50% of Americans right off the bat.

(2) The health of public discourse. We should all be against the creation of echo chambers and weaponization of headlines.

Re: Avoiding outrage fatigue while staying informed

#560

I don't have outrage fatigue. Outrages are outrages and they are what they are. Are there many exaggerations and fake outrages? Sure. But things like the USA's current constitutional crisis are real. What I struggle with isn't fatigue at outrage, it's knowing what to do about it. I think violence is going to become more common, but I don't particularly think it will be effective. So less so than outrage, it's the fee…

>I think violence is going to become more common, but I don't particularly think it will be effective. depends on where the violence is directed. Riots on the street and attacking fellow citizens will not change anything. Some old president suddenly falling ill would change a lot (not necessarily "everything". But a lot). >I would like to do something... But what? how much do you want to scale it? Short term keep pre…

Violence against everything got us the fair housing act of 1968

I don’t think it will work against an autocrat

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