Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Feb 05, 2025, 7:18 PM UTC

nottorp wrote: post #368

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Only if "utterly fucked" somehow means you can still pay a bit more to DHL and get packages even faster than USPS. Your fast prototypes coming by air freight likely aren't routed through USPS at all unless it's the last leg of a consolidated shipment that's broken apart once it reaches the US. Those would be using some other carrier to get them from China to the US and then USPS only inside the US. USPS all the way f…

> Paying ~$30 for express shipping through DHL (plus whatever the new tariffs end up being) will still get you those parts in 3-5 days to most major shipping hubs in the US, your suppliers will just need to start filing the export paperwork correctly. In my european experience, DHL is anything but fast when customs are involved. And I doubt they have the manpower to handle it for the new US rules. > These changes wil…

Post by brickfaced » Wed, Feb 05, 2025, 7:22 PM UTC

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> You metaphorically need to invent the universe to make it work in the US. You didnt answer the obvious question of the why things are the way they are now? US used to have their entire electronic supply chain, save from raw materials, in USA in the 70s... So why cant US build its own Shenzhen or Hong Kong? taxes? corporate taxes are relatively low in some US states, infrastructure? US has all the infrastructure nee…

In the 1800s the UK led the industrial revolution. Most things were manufactured there. Raw materials were shipped in from all over the Empire but the manufacturing was usually happening in the mills of the UK. In the 1900s the USA took that crown. Most things became manufactured there. A lot thanks to Britain bankrupting itself to defeat Germany in WW1. In the 2000s China has taken that crown. Now most things are ma…

Post by bobthepanda » Wed, Feb 05, 2025, 7:49 PM UTC

Daishiman wrote: post #548

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It’s short-termism but not the kind you first think of in the West. Chinese local officials are expected to meet and exceed targets for GDP growth. Investment is GDP growth, so officials are incentivized to build lots of flashy projects to boost growth even if there isn’t a clear need for them. The central government is so concerned with local government spending that has resulted that it has ordered 12 provinces to…

That's... worse than the US not building any infrastructure?

Post by anigbrowl » Wed, Feb 05, 2025, 8:01 PM UTC

ozmodiar wrote: post #470

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It's divide and conquer tactics. They are not interested in continuity or a smoothly functioning economy. They want chaos and panic because they can exploit it.

The problem is they've already threatened most of their allies. In divide and conquer the goal is supposed to be to divide your enemies, not divide yourself from your allies. As it is their enemies and allies now have good reason to work together.

Post by insane_dreamer » Wed, Feb 05, 2025, 8:15 PM UTC

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Consumers didn't save tons of money. They just bought more stuff with the money they had. > People demand cheap shit and riot over expensive stuff Sure, agree. But moving manufacturing to China wasn't done under pressure of Americans protesting that prices were high.

No, but it was done under pressure of Americans buying Walmart over local mom and pop. I cannot take anyone seriously who thinks people care about "Made in USA" more than $10 sweatshirts and $50 dinnerware sets.