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post #526

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They can't do anything about state AGs. Federalism is kind of silly but it works out here.

Can state AGs prosecute federal crimes, like this one?

No, but if it affects someone in the state there's usually something to get them on.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Thanks, that is useful. Are there any other efforts to archive all the data on government websites? I suppose we could crawl archive.org.

It will only take an order making the data illegal to host to have it removed. More copies are critical.

This means nothing if you host it on non-US servers. No one would take it seriously internationally.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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I’m an epidemiology professor and I write a weekly “weather report” outbreaks [1]. These communication and data blackouts are coming at a bad time. We’re having an unusual flu season—activity has rebounded unexpectedly. I’ve been having to scramble for data, last week by visiting each state health department website. It’s really troubling and consequential. [1] https://caitlinrivers.substack.com

Your Twitter was one of several I followed to get trusted information during most of Covid. Just wanted to say "Thanks".

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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If this was an order from the President as an official act, no scrutiny can be applied here in any court (broad immunity recently granted by the SCOTUS: absolute immunity for actions within his core constitutional powers and presumptive immunity for other official acts)... so good luck proving any wrongdoing without any evidence... If you go after any of the underlings who executed such order, they are likely getting…

That's not true. The restriction applies only to scrutiny of the President himself -- his agents still can be prosecuted.

His agents can be pardoned. He’s done that for thousands already.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Well, fact-checking works if it's done impartially. So, if you want to fairly fact-check a political debate, each side should have their own team of researchers/fact-checkers being equally able to object to an argument made by the opposing party. Due process, sort of, kind of. But I don't think I've ever seen that done actually. Usually, fact checkers are akin to Reddit moderators. Technically independent, but with o…

Let's first work on eliminating political parties altogether, then let's work on eliminating bias.

The Republican Party has been eliminated, it’s been replaced by a dictator cult.

Interestingly increasing numbers of young people want this.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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post #330

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Ohhhg I think I expressed myself wrongly, I meant for example, the Musk person and his proposals as a public man in politics, should I edit my comment to be more clear?

Still now following. Are you saying something like, "You know I hate everything Musk stands for, everything he does publicly — but he might be an okay guy as a person"?

I think Musk was a bad example, I mean for example, people wants better health care, and some public person and/or politician proposes better prices in prescriptions drugs at a mid term, then that person who was elect does not only holds the power but also is obligated to follow that project.

It's literally to detach the person from the projects, of course times changes and the elected project can not be achieved by an X factor, tho we should have checks and balances in that too.

Today we follow X or Y politician/party but in this polarization we lost the focus that in the end a politician is elected to execute goal/project and not to hold power and then maybe do it.

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Hmm. If things are not getting harder then either they stay the same or get better. I would find it hard to argue for either of those positions, but I would welcome you to try to defend that "things are not getting harder". In just about every possible metric outside of maybe "few really, really wealthy individuals make more money" things are not getting better or are stable. Are you maybe suggesting that what is goo…

Income inequality in the US hasn't increased since 2014 and is sharply decreased since 2019. Lower income people are making more money than ever. There was a period of no income growth for upper-middle class people, however, which probably made them unhappy. https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w31010/w310... What did happen in the last two years was there was a "vibecession" where everyone decided to pre…

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Re: CDC data are disappearing

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Trump tariffs are definitely not going to make the economy boom...

"The government of Columbia has agreed to all of President Trump's terms, including the unrestricted acceptance of all illegal aliens from Colombia returned from the United States, including on U.S. military aircraft, without limitation or delay. Based on this agreement, the fully drafted IEEPA tariffs and sanctions will be held in reserve, and not signed, unless Colombia fails to honor this agreement. The visa sanct…

And how does this make the economy boom, exactly?

Re: CDC data are disappearing

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How do you know you've gotten away with it? That takes the rest of your life. (Well, statute of limitations.)

It's going to be a couple months at most. If it's not punished immediately, it's practically legal with the current gov. And the next one will have way bigger things to unfuck than some missing documents.

> And the next one will have way bigger things to unfuck than some missing documents.

Assuming there is going to be a next one which isn’t wholly aligned with the current one. That’s far from a given.

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