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Re: Commercial jet collides with Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan airport

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Where did that come from? There are some things in life that don't revolve around identity politics, and I'd venture to say, ATC is one of them.

You might venture to say so, but unfortunately you'd be wrong.

Re: Commercial jet collides with Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan airport

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> over noisy radio I've been told the noise on the recordings is always a lot worse than in practice due to the location of the recording antenna not being ideal. I have no idea if this is correct or not. Maybe someone can enlighten this.

I watch a lot of pilots on Youtube. Most of them use some kind of audio splitter to record sound. You hear what the pilot hears. But minus the plane noise, vibrations, etc (unless that's mixed in via some open microphone). So, it's actually better. So, it really is that bad. Especially when flying low, on the edge of the range of the radios, etc. VHF radio is ancient technology. It's not great even under ideal condit…

YouTube is not a good representation of what you hear in a headset. Half the time the mic taps aren't impedence matched and sound like shit.

Besides that, most "controlling" (i.e. instructions that require action) comms have a handshake of sorts - the pilot repeats back the instruction for the controller to confirm. They don't just bark out instructions and hope you heard it, they listen for you to read them back, and will keep doing so until successful. So, even in cases when the comms are degraded, you will go back and forth until there has been positive confirmation (readback) you heard the instruction correctly (or they'll just give you a new frequency).

Re: Commercial jet collides with Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan airport

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It's next to impossible to know at night. The only thing you have visually is direction / angular velocity.

And if you're on a collision course the other vehicle will appear motionless, with no change in direction. If the airliners was approaching faster than the helicopter it could have been approaching from behind. How large is the field of view of a UH-60?

"How large is the field of view of a UH-60?"

Massive, you're practically against the glass. Visibility below is more obstructed than visibility above or to the sides.

Re: Commercial jet collides with Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan airport

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Maybe if the orders weren't so ineptly or maliciously ambiguous and overly broad, then people would have more confidence that safety critical jobs aren't being cut.

I think they really do want to hollow out the federal government, and we should expect things like planes falling out of the sky as part of that.

Given the release of this memo[1] offering the buyout of any federal employee who wants to step down, what I think we are looking at is the Musk-Vance-Thiel axis of the MAGA movement is implementing Curtis Yarvin's "R.A.G.E." plan to install a king dictator atop a neo-feudalist executive branch. I wish those words weren't as crazy as they are, but I mean, what else am I supposed to believe when the crazy plan Yarvin is pushing[2] is coming out of the Office of Personnel Management, which is being run by a billionaire who just gave a neo-Nazi salute behind the presidential seal?

  Under his Moldbug pseudonym, Yarvin gave a talk about "rebooting" the American government at the 2012 BIL Conference. He used it to advocate the acronym "RAGE", which he defined as "Retire All Government Employees". He described what he felt were flaws in the accepted "World War II mythology", alluding to the idea that Hitler's invasions were acts of self-defense. He argued these discrepancies were pushed by America's "ruling communists", who invented political correctness as an "extremely elaborate mechanism for persecuting racists and fascists". "If Americans want to change their government," he said, "they're going to have to get over their dictator phobia."[39]
They're trying to do a greenfield government like it's a startup, turning the US government into a company where they are the shareholder lords who own everything and get to decide who the king dictator is, while we are the employee peasants who don't own shit and have a say in nothing. I really wish that weren't my conclusion but those are the literal words of the guy whose plan they are doing. Quote: "get over their dictator phobia". So what else am I supposed to conclude?

[1] https://fedscoop.com/trump-federal-workforce-buyouts-legal-o... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin#:~:text=Under%20...

Re: Commercial jet collides with Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan airport

#555

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Where did that come from? There are some things in life that don't revolve around identity politics, and I'd venture to say, ATC is one of them.

> There are some things in life that don't revolve around identity politics Not anymore.

Simply wild coming from the person who introduced it where it was not being discussed.

If this is true, it's because you and people like you are inserting it in otherwise innocuous, productive discussions. Have you considered not doing that?

Re: Commercial jet collides with Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan airport

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Where did that come from? There are some things in life that don't revolve around identity politics, and I'd venture to say, ATC is one of them.

The President:

>Asked how he could come to the conclusion that diversity played a role in the deadly midair collision near Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport, Trump said, “Because I have common sense, OK? And unfortunately a lot of people don’t.”

>He later defended his assertion that diversity initiatives at the FAA could have contributed to the National Airport crash as the investigation continues.

>“No, I don’t think so at all,” Trump said when asked if he thinks his claims about the helicopter, air traffic control and DEI policies were getting ahead of the investigation. He quipped to the reporter that “I think that’s not a very smart question.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5116606-5-takeaw...

Re: Commercial jet collides with Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan airport

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Where did that come from? There are some things in life that don't revolve around identity politics, and I'd venture to say, ATC is one of them.

The President: >Asked how he could come to the conclusion that diversity played a role in the deadly midair collision near Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport, Trump said, “Because I have common sense, OK? And unfortunately a lot of people don’t.” >He later defended his assertion that diversity initiatives at the FAA could have contributed to the National Airport crash as the investigation continues. >“No, I do…

Fuck me this is gonna be a long 4 years and a LOT of ibuprofen.

Days without being an international embarrassment: 0

Re: Commercial jet collides with Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan airport

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"FAA Got Rid of Its Leader Before D.C. Plane Crash—Thanks to Elon Musk": * https://newrepublic.com/post/190942/faa-no-leader-dc-plane-c... "FAA Administrator Quit on Jan. 20 After Elon Musk Told Him to Resign": * https://www.thedailybeast.com/faa-chief-michael-whitaker-qui... "The FAA is facing a major crisis without a leader because Elon Musk pushed him out* * https://www.theverge.com/news/603113/faa-chief-musk-dc-p…

Gotta find a way to blame every tragedy on the politicians we don't like, huh? Trump is out there blaming Biden's administration for hiring bad ATC under the banner of DEI. Meanwhile, his detractors blame him and Musk for letting go of some FAA administrator. But of couse neither of those explanations are likely to hold water. The sad, mundane reality is these people probably lost their lives due to a miscommunicatio…

> Trump is out there blaming Biden's administration for hiring bad ATC under the banner of DEI.

The policies were in place since 2013, and somehow were not a problem during Trump's first term (2016-2020).

> Meanwhile, his detractors blame him and Musk for letting go of some FAA administrator.

The FAA administrator in question was around for about a year, and had a term until 2028, so there's no need to push him out now.

And the crash is not the fault of Biden or Trump, but there is unnecessary chaos because of Trump et al.

Re: Commercial jet collides with Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan airport

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Not disagreeing, but is there something particularly wrong with DCA?

DCA is great to fly in and out of (I live in DC proper), as it's close, isn't hard to get to, and has a Metro (our subway) station right in front of the terminal, and the airport is fairly easy to navigate once you're in. Dulles now has a Metro station, but it's still far away from the terminal and it's hard to navigate, with gates very far away from the terminal; other than the Saarinen architecture, everything else…

> the airport is fairly easy to navigate once you're in.

I see you skipped talking about how terrible it is navigating the road traffic to arrivals/departures

Re: Commercial jet collides with Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan airport

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https://x.com/aletweetsnews/status/1884789306645983319 You see the helo coming from the left on the screen while the airliner appears to be descending. The helo must have gotten in the way (as opposed to catching up from behind). The airliner's lights are unmistakable, so how did the helo pilot not notice them? The airliner's pilots might not have had a chance to notice the helo. Since the helo was crossing an active…

Anyone that can explain what the people on X mean when they comment that it was "intentional"? I'm probably out of the loop but this feels super out of place to me. These are only a small amount directly from the replies to the tweet you shared, you can find many more if you keep scrolling. https://x.com/27steph77/status/1884799302947500062 https://x.com/Aangtweets/status/1884793609326666014 https://x.com/Ray44444444…

Because everything is intentionally nowadays according to Twitter users. No matter the event.
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