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Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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Post by piva00 »

daemoens wrote: post #231

The app was shutdown a couple of hours ago in the US and this was the message all TikTok users saw when they opened the app.[1] The same guy who pushed for a ban massively last year, is going to save the app despite the security concerns he and most of our government said they had. If only we knew what happened in that classified briefing that made them vote together across party lines. [1] https://a57.foxnews.com/st…

Only Trump can save TikTok from what Trump started[0]?

It couldn't be because Jeffrey Yass has spent some dozens up to hundreds of millions US$ in GOP donations, could it? [1]

It really feels like the USA is circling the drain faster and faster these days...

[0] https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/ex...

[1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2024/03/18/billion...

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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Post by burgerrito »

Not my country so I couldn't care less. Just my observation from two oceans away:

US is a hypocrite. How about Meta and other US companies? Those companies does the same if not worse damage to your citizen.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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Post by spacechild1 »

gman83 wrote: post #536
daemoens wrote: post #231

The app was shutdown a couple of hours ago in the US and this was the message all TikTok users saw when they opened the app.[1] The same guy who pushed for a ban massively last year, is going to save the app despite the security concerns he and most of our government said they had. If only we knew what happened in that classified briefing that made them vote together across party lines. [1] https://a57.foxnews.com/st…

He received $100 million from Jeff Yass, the largest American investor in TIkTok. That did the trick.

Do you have a source for the $100 million? But yeah, Jeff Yass might indeed play a big role in Trumps sudden shift: https://www.fastcompany.com/91058467/who-is-jeff-yass-billio...

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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Post by genocidicbunny »

burgerrito wrote: post #552

Not my country so I couldn't care less. Just my observation from two oceans away: US is a hypocrite. How about Meta and other US companies? Those companies does the same if not worse damage to your citizen.

> US is a hypocrite

No, it's not. The point is about who's doing the damage. Ultimately, you can't really drop a ginsu telephone pole or send a 3-letter agency for a late night visit to a China-controlled company's leadership, but you can do that with US-based companies. From a geopolitical stance, US companies can be wielded to further US' interests, not so much for ByteDance.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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Post by markisus »

bloomingkales wrote: post #490
daemoens wrote: post #231

The app was shutdown a couple of hours ago in the US and this was the message all TikTok users saw when they opened the app.[1] The same guy who pushed for a ban massively last year, is going to save the app despite the security concerns he and most of our government said they had. If only we knew what happened in that classified briefing that made them vote together across party lines. [1] https://a57.foxnews.com/st…

https://www.axios.com/local/salt-lake-city/2024/05/06/senato... Vs https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/iransource/iran-tiktok... Mitch Hedberg: My belt holds my pants up, but the belt loops hold my belt up. I don't really know what's happening down there. Who is the real hero?

I had to think about this. It’s actually your own skin providing the frictional force that holds your pants up!

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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Post by spacechild1 »

p2detar wrote: post #548
pbiggar wrote: post #527

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "aggressively weaponized in currently very active grey zone conflicts" sounds very very scary! Do you actually mean that young Americans are using it to teach each other about the US-enabled Israeli occupation of Palestine?

A guy in Romania nobody knew existed almost became a president thanks to TikTok [0] last December. Almost every right-wing party in Europe has a huge presence in TikTok, from the Balkans to Western Europe. I guess that’s what they mean. I’m sorry, but not everything on this world is Israel/Palestine. 0 - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2v13nz202o.amp

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Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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Post by genocidicbunny »

pknerd wrote: post #495

From CBSNews: > U.S. officials have repeatedly warned that TikTok threatens national security because the Chinese government could use it as a vehicle to spy on Americans or covertly influence the U.S. public by amplifying or suppressing certain content. In other words, US officials are scared that China is going to do what the USA has been doing with American social media apps in various countries

> In other words, US officials are scared that China is going to do what the USA has been doing with American social media apps in various countries

Yes, and? It's naive to think that this is anything new or surprising -- a country attempting to further it's own interests ahead of other countries that it is competing with.

Re: TikTok goes dark in the US

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Post by _visgean »

psiconaut wrote: post #480

There's an interesting cognitive bias in the western media that tends to define freedom of the press (and freedom of expression) as exactly what is perceived as freedom in this side of the iron curtain. Libgen domains are "seized", and tiktok "goes dark", but of course other countries "censor" porn or news outlets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Press_Freedom_Index

Those words have different meaning:

1. Libgen domains are "seized" - only the domains got seized, the website is still operational.

2. tiktok "goes dark", yes because it was an action of tiktok to go dark with the hope that they will be operational next week. Nobody banned them and even Biden said he would not enforce it so they could have simply do nothing and wait for the next week.

3. "censor" porn or news outlets, I think thats common usage.

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