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Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by whynotminot »

joshstrange wrote: post #411

At this point I'd be hard pressed to consider this over my Steam Deck. We will see the specs later but I doubt it will really compete processing-wise or screen-wise. The openness (full arch desktop) of the Steam Deck is also awesome while having a great UI that you never have to leave if you don't want to. EDIT: I mistakenly called it "fedora desktop", my bad

The point of a Nintendo system will always be Nintendo games.

If that is not enough then by all means press on with Steam Deck.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by bdhcuidbebe »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #379
bdhcuidbebe wrote: post #351

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Downloading roms is all it takes to be regarded a hacker-type these days? I feel words keep losing their meaning …

Downloading roms? Probably not Modding your Wii-U to run those roms? I feel that probably qualifies someone to be regarded as a hacker -type

I guess I shoild have quoted what I was referring to, since it seems to high ask to expect others to read the rest of the discourse.

> If you're a hacker-type person who has already digitized your gamecube collection (or, let's be honest, downloaded the games illegally)

Either way, I disagree with your definition too.

The ”hacker-type” is the one figuring out how to mod the wii-u. The one following some instructions to perform it using provided tools is simply a end user.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by danudey »

adamc wrote: post #481
bargainbin wrote: post #468

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They’ve got the weird shit covered still, apparently the joy cons in this gen can be used as mice. Was heavily rumoured/leaked and this teaser video literally shows them gliding along a surface. How Nintendo will leverage that functionality, who could honestly say, but that’s the genius of keeping a toy company mindset in an industry full of sports car company mindsets.

That last sentence is worth an essay of its own. Everyone else keeps pumping resources into being photo-realistic blah-blah-blah without nearly enough attention to "is this fun"?

I saw an interesting analysis years ago about whether or not the most powerful console 'won' in each generation (i.e. whether or not being the most powerful console of your generation leads to success).

Generally speaking, no, it doesn't actually affect things, and in several cases (e.g. the Game Boy, the Wii, and the Switch come to mind) the objectively 'worse' console (from a tech perspective) was more successful by a country mile.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by TingPing »

wincy wrote: post #510
TingPing wrote: post #182

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Streaming in the same house still isn’t very good. Games are very latency sensitive.

I'm playing single player games via Parsec and the latency feels fine. Moonlight is tolerable but Steam streaming feels terrible for some strange reason. This is running two Wifi 6 devices so nothing is even wired. I often use a controller connected to my laptop, or even better use the wireless controller, connect that to the physical device then you bypass the controller latency and only the video has a lag, which i…

Steam Streaming was what I used which was noticeably delayed, so I should try some alternatives.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by hombre_fatal »

lenerdenator wrote: post #474
spencerflem wrote: post #344

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Sadly, I don't think games will ever be FLOSS until we figure out how to get people to pay for FLOSS software.

You could probably get away with a purely volunteer effort on... eh, how to describe this... like Super Mario 64 for Mac/Linux/PC. And I do mean Super Mario 64 with respect to the technology/artwork level. Which is fine by me. But the big AAA games and the multiplayer games that all of the hip young people with their poggers Twitch streaming and their deadass rock music play? Yeah, can't build those given the state o…

On the other hand, games are so hard to build and require so much vision that despite decades of gaming history, volunteers/hackers are mostly limited to modifying existing games rather than building a game from scratch.

You use Super Mario 64 as some sort of low/achievable bar for what volunteers might be able to build, as if SM64 is an easy game to build, yet nobody is building games like that on a volunteer basis.

Even look at the engineering that went into OpenMW: once again hackers were only able to recreate a game engine that runs existing game files (Morrowind) which is the easy part of building a game.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by danudey »

bloomingkales wrote: post #540
bargainbin wrote: post #468

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They’ve got the weird shit covered still, apparently the joy cons in this gen can be used as mice. Was heavily rumoured/leaked and this teaser video literally shows them gliding along a surface. How Nintendo will leverage that functionality, who could honestly say, but that’s the genius of keeping a toy company mindset in an industry full of sports car company mindsets.

As a mice or a air mouse. The smart tv stuff is limited by a remote control from 1980 (more or less, what changed?). I'd make lifestyle apps for the switch if they enable it.

As a mouse mouse. It seems to have an optical sensor on the inside edge (the side that attaches to the console) and the video shows the joy cons zooming around on that edge.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by danudey »

chungy wrote: post #206
nerdjon wrote: post #109

Happy to see that Nintendo is treating the switch more like how they traditionally handled their mobile platforms instead of their consoles. Iterating instead of throwing out everything with each new version. There is a part of me that is going to miss the, do weird shit and see what works, Nintendo that brought us some really fun ideas. But a stable Nintendo just being able to continue putting out great games has it…

Nintendo has tended to maintain at most 1 generation of backwards compatibility, though you can get some fuzzy ideas of "generations" in a few cases. Game Boy Color: plays original Game Boy games Game Boy Advance: plays Game Boy and Game Boy Color games Nintendo DS: plays Game Boy Advance games Nintendo DSi: plays Nintendo DS games Nintendo 3DS: plays Nintendo DS and DSi games Nintendo New 3DS: plays Nintendo DS, DSi…

> playing neither 3DS nor Wii U games.

Except the ones they remaster for us for $70.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by isk517 »

hedora wrote: post #536
isk517 wrote: post #518

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>The SNES was a revolution Nintendo has actually stated they view the SNES as a evolution of the NES. They have directly stated their hardware development cycle goes Revolution>Evolution>Revolution. Considering that the Switch was considered one of their revolutionary leap (their first hybrid console) it is no surprise the Switch 2 is a simple evolution of that concept. If their next console is another iteration of t…

I’d be curious to know when they said that. It sounds like revisionist history to me. Based on the switch launch video, the delta between the NES and SNES was much higher than Switch -> Switch 2. Here’s an analogous snes ad, which spends most of its time showing off 3d and increased sprite counts: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eSBFw93V3Rg

Sorry, tried to find the interview and failed. It would most like have come out around the Wii's release/development since it used the code name Revolution.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

nerdjon wrote: post #380
chungy wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nintendo has tended to maintain at most 1 generation of backwards compatibility, though you can get some fuzzy ideas of "generations" in a few cases. Game Boy Color: plays original Game Boy games Game Boy Advance: plays Game Boy and Game Boy Color games Nintendo DS: plays Game Boy Advance games Nintendo DSi: plays Nintendo DS games Nintendo 3DS: plays Nintendo DS and DSi games Nintendo New 3DS: plays Nintendo DS, DSi…

Based on that list, they have tended really only to do that on mobile platforms. It was one of my favorite things about the platform, but it always felt like this was partially thanks to the older hardware still getting games well into the new hardware's life in many cases. Major games, I believe Pokemon has done this a few times? Most of their home consoles were complete departures from previous hardware. NES, SNES,…

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