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US lawmakers tell Apple, Google to be ready to remove TikTok from stores Jan. 19

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Post by ltbarcly3 »

Cookingboy wrote: post #523
libertine wrote: post #467

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>Deliberately misinforming people, especially under a foreign state payroll, is illegal. First of all if you have any evidence of TikTok engaging in it, you should present it since even our government have said there is no such evidence and that possibility remains hypothetical. Secondly no, it's not illegal to spread misinformation, no matter the motive. The First Amendment absolutely guarantees that right.

There are several studies thwt strongly imply TikTok pushes an agenda.

Re: US lawmakers tell Apple, Google to be ready to remove TikTok from stores Jan. 19

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

OhioMan2943 wrote: post #191
badestrand wrote: post #85

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> I’ve been annoyed enough times by ‘tok’ers doing crap like I dunno, licking ice cream buckets in supermarkets, Did you ever see that in person? I feel like this is just typical outrage about something that maybe a total of 5 people did, so basically irrelevant.

No but I see entire generations change their whole personality and become ridiculously manicured and conformist to be more social media friendly

Radio, television, the internet, same as it ever was.

Re: US lawmakers tell Apple, Google to be ready to remove TikTok from stores Jan. 19

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Post by t0bia_s »

Cookingboy wrote: post #522
xanderlewis wrote: post #427

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You can imagine it. But they'd be wrong. Facebook and YouTube aren't directly controlled by an enemy government, and likely aren't intending as part of their raison d'être to sow discord and chaos in China.

Holy shit do you actually work for the U.S. State Department? Reuter reported this: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-covi... U.S. social media absolutely are controlled by the U.S. government, and we can, and have been able to get any user data we want from them.

- enemy government

Re: US lawmakers tell Apple, Google to be ready to remove TikTok from stores Jan. 19

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Post by snapcaster »

Roark66 wrote: post #510
flkenosad wrote: post #453

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No government is not your friend. The do not care about you. Whether that is US or China or EU, they do not have your best interest at heart. As soon as they no longer need you, you will understand.

In general true, but some governments are better than others. For example, would you prefer to live in Xinjang (being Uigur) in China, or let's say in Europe? Also a government of a country can change. Being raised in a communist Poland I was quite used to all government officials treating you quite famously badly. This was still pretty much in full swing around 2004 (many years after the all of Communism) when I emi…

I'm not saying this like it's some huge deal but i think this comment illustrates my general frustration with discussion on China. Why would you compare the most marginalized group of one society with a normal person in another? Do you think that's fair? If we wanted to do comparisons wouldn't we need to pick the most marginalized groups of people in the West to compare Uigur in Xinjang?

Not saying this like China is perfect, i just don't understand why people who seemingly aren't professional propagandists seem to have this "everything china does is bad" narrative in their heads. Like any great country, many horrible _and_ wonderful things have been done there but in the US we only talk about the horrible things and it warps everyone's view

Re: US lawmakers tell Apple, Google to be ready to remove TikTok from stores Jan. 19

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Post by ltbarcly3 »

snapcaster wrote: post #488
libertine wrote: post #467

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Holy shit can you people stop with "every point that disagrees with me is a russian propaganda point" are you serious? Can you not conceive of anyone disagreeing with you in good faith without being a state actor? You're literally just declaring a specific kind of speech "not free speech" as if it's a fact and not your arbitrary opinion

You should familiarize yourself on what the russian propaganda strategy is and reflect on whether you are amplifying it. Propoganda works on everyone.

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Post by snapcaster »

curt15 wrote: post #437
ludston wrote: post #432

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Thinks that China is an enemy government when the USA and China do 500 billion dollars worth of trade each year.

Which friendly governments steal secrets about premier weapon systems like F-22, F-35, etc?

every single one. please examine where you got the idea that everything china does is bad and if it's a useful belief for you to hold (and if not, who is it useful for?)

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Post by rchaud »

siva7 wrote: post #137
xnx wrote: post #36

1) Excellent way to teach millions of people about sideloading overnight. This could be a big win for Android (where sideloading is easy) vs. iPhone were sideloading is impossible (? or only possible only with an annual dev license?) 2) Will this affect apps like CapCut and Lemon8 too?

Sounds like the “Year of Linux” fantasies 20-30 years ago. No, people won’t learn about side-loading much like they didn’t care to try out linux instead of windows. They will simply use a competitor app.

Sideloading is not Linux, it's Napster (or maybe Fortnite). Switching to Linux requires a level of ideological commitment that is not necessary for accessing something like TikTok.

On Android, there is no work associated with sideloading besides checking a toggle letting you install an app outside the App Store.

Re: US lawmakers tell Apple, Google to be ready to remove TikTok from stores Jan. 19

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Post by snapcaster »

ltbarcly3 wrote: post #555
snapcaster wrote: post #488

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Holy shit can you people stop with "every point that disagrees with me is a russian propaganda point" are you serious? Can you not conceive of anyone disagreeing with you in good faith without being a state actor? You're literally just declaring a specific kind of speech "not free speech" as if it's a fact and not your arbitrary opinion

You should familiarize yourself on what the russian propaganda strategy is and reflect on whether you are amplifying it. Propoganda works on everyone.

Look in the mirror, you're the one convinced everyone disagreeing with you is a threat to the empire. Don't worry buddy, the CIA has plenty of propagandists you don't need to carry water for them

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Post by ltbarcly3 »

ludston wrote: post #462
pas wrote: post #444

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Ukraine and Russia also continues to trade gas. Countries pay Gazprom and Ukraine charges Gazprom for transit. Life is not black and white. See also https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/manufacturing-is-a-war-now/

Yeah it's the lack of black and whiteness that makes me so confused as to why you would brand the government of a 1 billion person nation as an enemy rather than say, a competitor or even an ally that behaves in occasionally intolerable ways. Kind of like how a lot of nations continue to be allies with a nation that goes around invading other nations and deposing legitimately elected governments in the interest of or…

Name one single other country that we trade with that has an official policy that it owns another country we trade with, and insists that if we say out loud the other country is a country it means immediate war?
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