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Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by havblue »

cultureswitch wrote: post #521

It's getting sort of ridiculous how much each party is stuck in an electoral strategy where they have to pretend to be on one side of an issue which is objectively against the interests of the people they pretend to be representing. Dems have to appear to be pro-immigration for reasons (honestly I don't know why this is like this, historically). They are genuinely less xenophobic than the Reps, so they respect the ri…

One of my "friends" bragged to me this year about how he threatened to replace one of his underperforming programmers with someone from Pakistan for $10 an hour.

Say you're on the receiving end of this threat. Do you really care what country your replacement is from? Is my "friend" really all that benevolent to fire someone for less money?

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by drawkward »

It's the economy, stupid:

-Inflation is not prices; it is the rate of change in prices. Low inflation doesn't imply low prices. -Aggregate statistics don't necessarily explain individual outcomes.

The Dems failed on this count massively, and have, for maybe the last 40 years, which is about the amount of time it took for my state to go from national bellwether (As goes Ohio, so goes the nation) to a reliably red state. This cost one of the most pro-union Senators (Sherrod Brown) his job.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by kristopolous »

laniakean wrote: post #543

2016 : Hilary Clinton - People felt that she was chosen because it was her turn 2020 : Kamala Harris - A candidate who never ever even did well in the primaries. I hope DNC learn from this and let people choose a candidate next time.

They won't.

These candidates are aligned with the Democrats.

That's what the party is.

It's not a party of the left or liberals or whatever you imagine it to be. They've been extremely clear on this.

Go over the historicals. I have. Many times. This is correct.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by arwhatever »

inemesitaffia wrote: post #552

I was told Charli XCX, Chappell Roan, and Ethel Cain would deliver this for the Dems months ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41020940 and that Musk's actions wouldn't matter. More recently Joe Rogan

For some reason I can't help but read this in the voice of Milton, from Office Space.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by gosub100 »

laniakean wrote: post #543

2016 : Hilary Clinton - People felt that she was chosen because it was her turn 2020 : Kamala Harris - A candidate who never ever even did well in the primaries. I hope DNC learn from this and let people choose a candidate next time.

> let people choose a candidate next time.

You mean like a democracy ? Surely you must be joking.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by TacticalCoder »

laniakean wrote: post #543

2016 : Hilary Clinton - People felt that she was chosen because it was her turn 2020 : Kamala Harris - A candidate who never ever even did well in the primaries. I hope DNC learn from this and let people choose a candidate next time.

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Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by TrackerFF »

cultureswitch wrote: post #521

It's getting sort of ridiculous how much each party is stuck in an electoral strategy where they have to pretend to be on one side of an issue which is objectively against the interests of the people they pretend to be representing. Dems have to appear to be pro-immigration for reasons (honestly I don't know why this is like this, historically). They are genuinely less xenophobic than the Reps, so they respect the ri…

This is in no way a shot at the Latino population. But they are unfortunately a group that are stuck in a hard place.

On one side, they have a very religious population. Some of their core values align with republican values - i.e., freedom of religion, pro-life, and what have you.

But they're also voting for the very same people that vows to deport them.

And before anyone tries to argue "But they only want the illegal ones deported!" - we all know damn well that the most vocal part of the republican party couldn't care less if thousands of legal immigrants are deported by "accident".

In the end, people vote against their own interest, and rationalize it with "But it wouldn't happen to me!" (or anyone they know or love).

Same goes for the "fiscally conservative, socially liberal" crowd, and what have you.

Re: Trump wins presidency for second time

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Post by kristopolous »

drawkward wrote: post #553

It's the economy, stupid: -Inflation is not prices; it is the rate of change in prices. Low inflation doesn't imply low prices. -Aggregate statistics don't necessarily explain individual outcomes. The Dems failed on this count massively, and have, for maybe the last 40 years, which is about the amount of time it took for my state to go from national bellwether (As goes Ohio, so goes the nation) to a reliably red stat…

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