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Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by sib »

vlz wrote: post #457
aprilthird2021 wrote: post #439

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Why? The biggest complaint about the smartphone, a world-changing device, is that it keeps people from being present in the world around them. If you can remove that biggest complaint, huge improvement, right?

But has the device really something to do with that? Right now people are staring absent-mindedly at a screen in their hands, in the future they might be staring absent-mindedly at whatever is behind the projected image on their glasses. What’s keeping you from interacting with the world around you is probably the content not the device.

I think their hypothesis is that it's not the "what" (interacting with content) that prevents phone users from interacting with the world, but the "how" (head tilted down, eyes focused on a small rectangle, peripheral vision almost completely unused).

With an AR experience (in their hypothesis), the overlay nature of the content being displays does not prevent you from interacting with the real world.

Example - you are at an event and a little popup window appears above the head of the person you are walking toward, using a multi-modal AI assistant to remind you of their name and the context of how you met. This feels different from trying to subtly pull out your phone and figure out how to use some combination of linkedin, email search, etc., to figure out who they are.

Alternatively, how many times have we seen phone users trip on the sidewalk or walk into something because they are so engrossed in what's on the screen?

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Post by small_scombrus »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #515
zmmmmm wrote: post #449

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heh ... i'm frustrated that the schools my kids are going to aren't embracing this tech. the applications in education are absolutely mind blowing.

I'd be happy with reliable HVAC and enough books to go around. AR headsets seem a bit frivolous.

With all this future tech, maybe we'll be able to get the mold and structural issues sorted out soon...

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by WuxiFingerHold »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #431
Animats wrote: post #399

Nice hardware. They're down to swim goggle size. Then you see what Facebook wants you to do with it - see screens in front of you all the time. One with Facebook's "Recommended" page, and a video of some talking neckbeard. There's a feeling of "we were promised virtual reality, and all we got was talking heads of influencers." The hardware apparently has GPS, but that's turned off. So, no Pokemon Go yet. Not even Hyp…

Further evidence to the truth of this: The best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads. –Jeff Hammerbacher Oh lament! for what, not just the future, but the present, could have been. Edited to add: But! Even as I have just written that and stand by it, I just don't know if humanity could have done it any other way. One must sell their soul to 'the green', even just a little, to have th…

I share this view and have to fight strong negative feelings every time I see another technically great innovation that is just used to make people esp. young people ill and suffering. Most young people already are Insta, TicToc and YT zombies with crippled creativity and full of anxiety. Now, Meta is trying to steal the few remaining minutes they just can be human beings and not being abused as consuming bots. If Zuckerberg had the tech he would inject this crap into our dreams and promise us a better world. (I guess with my last sentence I lost the fight against my negative feelings ...)

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Post by JoeJonathan »

zmmmmm wrote: post #449
sharkweek wrote: post #392

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Nick Clegg (public affairs guy at FB) is currently lobbying to get VR headsets on schoolchildren. I can't think of anything I want less than my kids wearing those things while in class all day. https://nickclegg.medium.com/how-the-metaverse-can-transform...

heh ... i'm frustrated that the schools my kids are going to aren't embracing this tech. the applications in education are absolutely mind blowing.

What are the applications in ed?

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Post by tracerbulletx »

moralestapia wrote: post #461
Animats wrote: post #399

Nice hardware. They're down to swim goggle size. Then you see what Facebook wants you to do with it - see screens in front of you all the time. One with Facebook's "Recommended" page, and a video of some talking neckbeard. There's a feeling of "we were promised virtual reality, and all we got was talking heads of influencers." The hardware apparently has GPS, but that's turned off. So, no Pokemon Go yet. Not even Hyp…

Even if it turns out that the only application of this is to show ads (which will not be the case), the hardware alone is a monumental achievement of engineering. I would love to see ads on these, at least once. In contrast, I've never had any interest to even try Apple's VR headset. This is one of the most well-put v1 products ever. Avoid the MKDBHC trap (or however it's spelled). Innovation beats cynicism, every da…

Assuming you're talking about Rabbit and the Humane pin reviews, those products were garbage and a product reviewer should tell consumers they're garbage, that's literally their job. This isn't the same thing at all because A it's not a product you can buy which they have lied about to get anyone to buy, B it's actually impressive technology.

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Post by verdverm »

osrec wrote: post #544
signal11 wrote: post #442

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> I think I've called it a smoking crater where ten billion dollars used to be. It’s less of a waste of money if it paints Facebook as a technology leader and distracts lawmakers, and helps give the company mind space among the tech press. In fact the metaverse may have started out as DC strategy [1]. Facebook Inc. is old and boring, catering to a predominantly older cohort and becoming “Big Social” by buying up anyt…

DC?

Probably Washington DC, i.e. influencing politicians and narrative around the company

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Post by zonkerdonker »

MarkMc wrote: post #538

OK that's cute, but when is Facebook going to release this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EohIA7QPmmE Lex: "It just feels like we are in the same room. This is really the most incredible thing I've ever seen".

That level of detail needs a few hours of scanning and a few dozen of terrabytes of data, along with processing that data to create a model, and then a rig to power that model. Anything less than that, and the uncanny valley creeps up FAST. There's been work on using scans from an iPhone, but with realistic avatars it's really all or nothing.

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Post by lapphi »

jiggawatts wrote: post #417
brikym wrote: post #372

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Cocomelon are already focus group testing their addictive hypnotic kids videos. They don't need millions of kids to develop this crack for kids, just a dozen or so.

Speaking of which, I just recently blocked Cocomelon on my kid’s iPad. How insane is it that a company is purposefully putting out crack in video form targeted explicitly at toddlers!? Brought to you by the same people that thought cigarette candy was a brilliant idea.

I mean from the point of view of McDonald’s I mean Disney no no the tobacco companies, it was probably idea of the year.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Post by verdverm »

bensandcastle wrote: post #543

Having built similar tech (Meta, YC S13), it's been a great year with Vision Pro, Orion, Spectacles and more coming out. Currently at my co, seeing most day to day use out of XReal, and keen for Visor. AR/XR/MR/VR app I'm most looking forward to is a 360 location share with the sharing user in AR, and the receiving user in VR, with additional virtual objects shared between. Orion would be great for the send side, wit…

visor.com is close to shipping too (Vision Pro in a smaller package at 1/3 the cost, aimed at virtual monitors)
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