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How to succeed in MrBeast production (Leaked PDF)

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Re: How to succeed in MrBeast production (Leaked PDF)

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Post by malthaus »

slt2021 wrote: post #456
geerlingguy wrote: post #298

It's interesting to see the discussion from two different angles—there's a lot of support for the type of A/B/C delineation in parts of this thread, and some people who decry it in other parts. I was on the set for one of the productions, and I'll just say at the time I thought the experience was a one-off for one of the bigger productions they've put on. Since reading other people's stories, it seems more a case whe…

MrBeast has given up his life for his youtube channel (he writes exactly this in the doc) - and he is looking for other people willing to give up theirs for his channel

the audacity to ask other people to give up their life for helping you fulfil your dream and even sell it to them as them fulfilling their dream.

is it the same "temporarily embarrassed millionaires" shtick the american dream brainwashed americans with?

if you have that much drive and want to invest so heavily in work - do yourself a favour and do it as a leader where you call the shots and have the equity instead of as a follower.

Re: How to succeed in MrBeast production (Leaked PDF)

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Post by calmbonsai »

guywithahat wrote: post #314
calmbonsai wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Um well, Mr. Beast IS a fraud (do a casual search), the content is crass, exploitative, and it's perfectly reasonable to critique a person when they have a personalized brand. This is no different than what's done in ANY entertainment media contract negotiation that takes place with "on-air talent".

I realize this is semantics but he’s not a fraud, because he delivers on the things he says. If he didn’t spend 48 hours (or however long) underground that would make him a fraud, but he did. The content might be of dubious quality, but it’s not fraudulent

I see you haven't done even a casual search.

Re: How to succeed in MrBeast production (Leaked PDF)

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Post by komali2 »

vasco wrote: post #157
oulipo wrote: post #93

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What are they doing? They gave free cataract surgery to a huge number of people across the world, built wells, have distributed an ungodly amount of food and the list goes on. Just google the foundation and stop being grumpy. My bet is you will not be able to give away a tiny fraction of what they have in your whole life, even with all their flaws.

Capitalising on suffering by alleviating it is still capitalizing on suffering. It's one step removed from Bumfights.

Re: How to succeed in MrBeast production (Leaked PDF)

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Post by hnbad »

calmbonsai wrote: post #545
wrsh07 wrote: post #374

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ignoring the ethics of Mr Beast, he is producing real videos at an incredibly high volume and they consistently do numbers. None of those videos is easy to make. Sure, it's maybe not great to be so impressed by logistics or supply chain of a tobacco company, but from a business and systems view some of it is interesting

You lost me at "ignoring the ethics". By de facto, you never ignore ethics. You may disregard them, but they're never ignored.

Ignoring the ethics is literally antithetical to good engineering. Alas it seems to be the default for operating a business.

Re: How to succeed in MrBeast production (Leaked PDF)

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Post by malthaus »

simonw wrote: post #300
sweeter wrote: post #287

I think the authors intention was to pull any positives from this document that they could, but it seems almost negligent to not even mention the "no doesn't mean no" section of this document. As well as the context of the current ongoing gigantic mess, where Mr Beast tortured a guy while doing a "I spent X Hours in Solitary Confinement" video, and had to scrap it after the contestant was harmed. They refused to shut…

I didn’t try to extract positives, I extracted what I personally found most interesting. I skipped the “no doesn’t mean no” section because it felt like pure hustle culture to me, not to mention something which wouldn’t work outside of MrBeast because they can lean so heavily on their brand - “find an employee who has a kid who is a fan” etc. I didn’t actually spot the relationship between the “no means no” section a…

you empower your employees with a mindset of "no doesn't mean no" and have them get results with pushback on no's. they are young kids mostly, don't you think that they will apply the same learned mindset the next time a girl tells them no?

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Post by xandrius »

FrozenSynapse wrote: post #525
j_timberlake wrote: post #354

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most hobbies are just as dumb when you think about it. Sports = watching grown men play with balls, Games = giving yourself unnecessary problems to solve, TV/Reading = learning (usually) completely useless information

watching sports is entertaining as you're watching highly skilled individuals perform at the highest level + gives you a sense of belonging; games - entertainment and skill development, whether those are multiplayer games that teach you cooperation and competition, or single-player games that is fun and in a lot of cases learning (through lore), developing motor skills, strategic thinking and so on; tv/reading - lear…

To be fair, watching sports is absolutely also brainrot for people not enjoying it.

Re: How to succeed in MrBeast production (Leaked PDF)

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Post by tinco »

barrell wrote: post #527
jrflowers wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like the idea that entertainment made for broad appeal is an existential threat to society worthy of comparison to drugs that kill hundreds of thousands of people per year. People have been appealing to the lowest common denominator for forever and yet the world soldiers on. Your larger question of “why haven’t they made things I don’t personally find appealing illegal yet?” is worthy of exploration, though I don’t…

How much societal progress has been killed from the amount of time spent watching Mr beast videos? How many potentially otherwise productive hours were wasted watching someone in ketchup? Obviously it’s not a 1:1 ratio, but it’s a valid question to ask. Also he clearly states it shouldn’t be illegal. You should read posts more carefully before resorting to ad hominem attacks

The ratio probably goes the other way. You'd be counting the amount of productive hours that were enabled by letting people relax their brains watching novel and enjoyable content. MrBeast videos likely add to GDP.

Re: How to succeed in MrBeast production (Leaked PDF)

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Post by BrenBarn »

Some people have alluded to this, but I find it sad that so much energy in our modern society goes towards trying to exploit arbitrary particularities of arbitrary platforms. Even if we set aside the stuff like "you're taking a risk building on YouTube because they could ban you", there's the more practical stuff about how the plan is all about the title and thumbnail. Like if YouTube somehow switched to letting you have two thumbnails, or some other UI element that you could customize, suddenly everyone playing this game would have to scramble to figure out how to maximize in that environment.

It just seems to me like following a rich person around hoping some coins will fall out of their pocket. It's a parasitic ecosystem that encourages content to focus more and more on "what works" in the self-perpetuating context of that ecosystem, and less and less on making contact with any kind of external reality.

Re: How to succeed in MrBeast production (Leaked PDF)

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Post by rldjbpin »

interesting to see this leaked a few weeks after the valve one (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41329274), albeit unrelated.

if an actual one, to me it is another interesting perspective inside the minds of a privately-owned, internet-based party that hold a significant mind-share in its domain.

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