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Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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Post by alt227 »

standardUser wrote: post #491
alt227 wrote: post #475

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No I dont consider myself so important that I am above interacting with anybody, nor do I think my opinions are better or more correct than anybody elses. I think even if you were to spend your life just getting to know and educating 1 bigotted person so much so that they change they views just a little, that would be a life well spent.

> nor do I think my opinions are better or more correct than anybody elses. Well, you should. If you don't, you should work on formulating more correct opinions that you believe in and can defend.

> Well, you should

Thanks for telling me what to do!

> you should work on formulating more correct opinions that you believe in and can defend.

No thanks, Im happy being open minded and willing to have good debates which can change either sides opinion. If you are not open to having your mind changed, you can not call yourself open minded.

Lets not let this devolve any further into a spat about opinion. Im not telling you yours is wrong, you can stop trying to tell me mine is now.

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Post by kyle-rb »

danudey wrote: post #519
deepsun wrote: post #508

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But then what's the difference between live streaming and recordings? There's some magic in live streams -- people prefer to watch boring live streams instead of hand-picked recorded videos of best games/conversations/jokes.

Is this true, or anecdotal? Personally, every time I decide "I'm going to check out this streamer's live stream" I always end up joining at some point where they're getting set up, they're taking a break, they're reading chat, they're eating soup... I've never actually tuned into a livestream I'm actually interested in. Meanwhile, RTGame was one of the first gaming content creators I ever subscribed to, and all of hi…

I think different people prefer different things, and also different creators provide different things.

I enjoy smaller Twitch channels where the chat isn't going 1000mph because you can actually chat with other viewers. There's definitely a parasocial element if the streamer reads your message, but it's more that it's an online community with shared references and in-jokes.

Also the people I follow are mostly part-time streamers doing 3-4 hour streams a few nights per week, so they don't need many breaks like the ones doing all-day streams.

Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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Post by standardUser »

paganel wrote: post #492
standardUser wrote: post #400

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What precisely is wrong with consensually selling sex?

There is really no “consensual” part in there.

I've done sex work. You tell me how what I did was not consensual. Explain it in detail. No need to be so coy or shy. After all, you're reading about and commenting on an article about porn.

Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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Post by tonymet »

qingcharles wrote: post #456
RandomThoughts3 wrote: post #242

What I find fascinating/disturbing with OnlyFans and in some way with Twitch and streaming in general is more the client side than the creators. Here are basically people paying, and paying a lot, for parasocial relationships. Because clearly it’s not about the content per see which is a dim a dozen and available for free in trove. I think it says something quite dark about our society as a whole that we have basical…

This view isn't matched by the stats. I have a friend who is a successful OF model and only a fraction of one percent of her subscribers ever DM her. A lot of them subscribe, see what they want and then immediately delete their accounts. There's no apparent relationship between her fans and her, for the most part.

Do you pay ?

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Post by trackflak »

djbusby wrote: post #249
lynx23 wrote: post #122

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Well, those civilians who can think for themselves, especially about the consequences of their actions, are clearly in advantage. I am lacking empathy for those who are apparently so hooked up to the here-and-now that they seem to ignore the future. If you sell your body, most societies will punish you. Thats fine, societies have all sorts of norms we all need to learn.

> If you sell your body That's how all labor works.

It doesn't matter whether I write a module in Fortran, fold laundry or sell a kidney on the black market. It's all morally equivalent!

Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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Post by NineStarPoint »

k33jf33l2 wrote: post #467
standardUser wrote: post #427

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> These things you mentioned are all still looked on negatively by some people. I don't know anyone who has been denied a job or an opportunity because of those issues. I also don't know anyone who has been denied an opportunity because they made adult content. Does it happen? Absolutley. Is it crippling to the point of ostracization? Not even close. If anything, being able to filter out people who would look down on…

> I don't know anyone who has been denied a job or an opportunity because of those issues. How would they know? I suspect there's some selection bias at play here because it might not be legal to discriminate on this basis. > (...) because they have a piecing or like to take naked photos. That's a strawman. The discussion doesn't concern people who "like to take naked photos" ; it concerns people who do it for money…

Firing someone for having tattoos or having done sex work is completely legal in almost all US states. Generally speaking, the only things private employers can’t discriminate based on is things intrinsic to who the person is (race, sexuality, non-relevant disability), and religion. Past choices are completely legal to fire someone for, even if it has nothing to do with the job at hand.

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Post by beaglesss »

yieldcrv wrote: post #503
tpurves wrote: post #370

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This. This is the real social problem we should be fighting. SW should not impinge on career or social status. As a hiring manager, if anything I'd want to consider sex performers as a green flag in a job history. Speaks to resourcefulness, social skills, courage and self confidence.

And your women in tech won’t be SWERFs last two decades all the representation was sex worker exclusionary, fighting for a libidoless morph of the corporate world, talking over and on behalf of any women that thought or acted differently glad that was temporary booth babes and atmosphere models coming back soon

Id make sex work legally equal to other work.

Of course a consequence of that would be the engineering boss can ask the team to pole dance, and if they refuse they can be fired as easily as they could be for refusing to take out the trash.

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Post by Der_Einzige »

zakki wrote: post #278
prmoustache wrote: post #184

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> where every problem is solved with sex. Would it be a problem?

Yes. Till this day Bonobo has no invention. Do you like this kind of society?

This is exactly what everyone means by “return to monke”

Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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Post by sesm »

RandomThoughts3 wrote: post #242

What I find fascinating/disturbing with OnlyFans and in some way with Twitch and streaming in general is more the client side than the creators. Here are basically people paying, and paying a lot, for parasocial relationships. Because clearly it’s not about the content per see which is a dim a dozen and available for free in trove. I think it says something quite dark about our society as a whole that we have basical…

> clearly it’s not about the content per see which is a dim a dozen and available for free in trove.

I think there is a darker side there: many of those subscribers are minors, who discover this kind of content for the first time. That's why OF models stream on Twitch to expand their audience, there are plenty of kids who came there for Minecraft, but will end up subscribing to OF with mom's credit card.

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