1Password has gotten progressively worse. It's now an Electron app (so it's slower to load), and some features have stopped working well. They took VC funding to pivot to enterprise, anticipating that OS vendors would integrate basic password management features (what most of their usage at the time) into the OS. So the consumer experience has been de-prioritized. I will not be renewing my 1Password subscription.
Oh the classic irrational HN hate on JS/Electron... 1Password 8 takes <1s to load from scratch on my machine, and is instant most of the time since it runs in background.
I wonder if the biggest side benefit to a player like Apple getting into this game is the pressure it puts on web site developers to follow some kind of convention with their login forms. The vast majority of the time I have trouble filling a password, it's because the web developer did some wacky shit with the fields that make them unrecognizable, or in the worst case actively prevent pasting a password. It's one th…
There is a convention already, and it's quite simple. There's an "autocomplete" property on an input tag, and you can tell the browser what it's for[1]. Use "username", "email", and "current-password" for example when building a login page. ("new-password" is useful for creating an account or changing password, and the password manager can suggest a new password here instead of trying to autofill with your old passwo…
I think the GP commenter is aware of that but saying "now that Apple is directly invested in managing and entering your password, it's harder to make excuses for dogshit product specs that, for example, block pasting passwords."
I've been an avid 1Password user for over 10 years, but since they gone full-throttle targeting the enterprise market, I'm getting more and more annoyed. It's increasingly buggy (right now, it thinks I haven't migrated from 1p7 which causes annoying interstitials that I can't close. Over a month and no fix yet.). They killed standalone vaults. Obvious feature requests (e.g archive an entire vault) sit there for years…
My biggest worry about passwords by Apple is that I have even less pull when they screw it up. Not that I have a lot of input in 1Password, of course, but I bet if I get loud enough on HN for long enough, I could get the attention of the CEO. Try that with Apple. As a long time user (sufferer) of Screen Time, I am acutely aware of how badly Apple can screw up software, and how long they can let it go unfixed. Tim Coo…
Keychain Access has been there since the beginning of OSX/macOS. It's quietly been storing email and wifi passwords this entire time. Many, before there was an alternative like 1Password, used the app to store other info within as well through secure notes. Passwords in iOS and Safari, along with Keychain sync in iCloud have expanded the keychain functionality over the years and it's been fine for ~25 years or so. I have faith they won't suddenly screw this up and comparisons to less critical stuff like Screen Time aren't really valid here. And sherlocking? I don't think so. When 1Password came out, it was clearly inspired by Keychain Access that had been there for years prior with similar functionality and even user interfaces.
I've been an avid 1Password user for over 10 years, but since they gone full-throttle targeting the enterprise market, I'm getting more and more annoyed. It's increasingly buggy (right now, it thinks I haven't migrated from 1p7 which causes annoying interstitials that I can't close. Over a month and no fix yet.). They killed standalone vaults. Obvious feature requests (e.g archive an entire vault) sit there for years…
Ever since Apple added password management to Safari it’s been clear that 1Password was going to get Sherlocked, the switch to enterprise mashes perfect sense from a corporate perspective. Chrome and Firefox offer the same features, so now every browser is competing too. I’m finding most of the friction with 1Password I run into is actually Apple competing for autofill in Safari creating two completely different UIs…
Apple uses 1Password enterprise internally, so I doubt we’ll see it get completely Sherlocked since enterprise will continue using it.
Passwords.app will be used by folks who can’t be bothered to pay for a password manager, which won’t do much to 1Password’s bottom line.
There’s a lot of prior art like Apple uses Cisco WebEx instead of FaceTime for video collaboration. The products Apple produces are just very different than their enterprise counterparts.
I've been an avid 1Password user for over 10 years, but since they gone full-throttle targeting the enterprise market, I'm getting more and more annoyed. It's increasingly buggy (right now, it thinks I haven't migrated from 1p7 which causes annoying interstitials that I can't close. Over a month and no fix yet.). They killed standalone vaults. Obvious feature requests (e.g archive an entire vault) sit there for years…
My biggest worry about passwords by Apple is that I have even less pull when they screw it up. Not that I have a lot of input in 1Password, of course, but I bet if I get loud enough on HN for long enough, I could get the attention of the CEO. Try that with Apple. As a long time user (sufferer) of Screen Time, I am acutely aware of how badly Apple can screw up software, and how long they can let it go unfixed. Tim Coo…
I’ve had my iCloud account corrupted twice since they switched from dot Mac. Zero chance I’ll ever trust Apple with anything serious. I don’t even trust them to keep my contacts safe from corruption. Never going to trust them with my passwords.
Wasn't .Mac discontinued in 2008? I think it's time to let go
Ever since Apple added password management to Safari it’s been clear that 1Password was going to get Sherlocked, the switch to enterprise mashes perfect sense from a corporate perspective. Chrome and Firefox offer the same features, so now every browser is competing too. I’m finding most of the friction with 1Password I run into is actually Apple competing for autofill in Safari creating two completely different UIs…
Apple uses 1Password enterprise internally, so I doubt we’ll see it get completely Sherlocked since enterprise will continue using it. Passwords.app will be used by folks who can’t be bothered to pay for a password manager, which won’t do much to 1Password’s bottom line. There’s a lot of prior art like Apple uses Cisco WebEx instead of FaceTime for video collaboration. The products Apple produces are just very differ…
Yeah i'm not sure apple wants to tackle things like 'shared vaults' outside of family sharing.
I've been an avid 1Password user for over 10 years, but since they gone full-throttle targeting the enterprise market, I'm getting more and more annoyed. It's increasingly buggy (right now, it thinks I haven't migrated from 1p7 which causes annoying interstitials that I can't close. Over a month and no fix yet.). They killed standalone vaults. Obvious feature requests (e.g archive an entire vault) sit there for years…
Ever since Apple added password management to Safari it’s been clear that 1Password was going to get Sherlocked, the switch to enterprise mashes perfect sense from a corporate perspective. Chrome and Firefox offer the same features, so now every browser is competing too. I’m finding most of the friction with 1Password I run into is actually Apple competing for autofill in Safari creating two completely different UIs…
> clear that 1Password was going to get Sherlocked,
I'm actually of the same opinion as the GP comment, modulo that I'm not ever going to jump ship to an Apple password manager, but I'll point out that 1Password will most certainly not get Sherlocked since they are not Apple-centric and thus Apple would have to (gasp) release a Passwords.app client for Windows and Linux plus a cli and kubernetes operator in order to hold a candle to the reach that 1P has
I've been using KeePassXC on Mac and Windows and sync them between each other with Unison[1]. I'd be curious to learn how others who are using KeePassXC are syncing there databases with iPhone. [1] https://gist.github.com/jftuga/0265e5403d56373662b9513d8816e...
I use the Passlane CLI for accessing and managing my passwords. Passlane stores the data in a keepass file that I have in Dropbox so that I can access it from multiple devices. On my phone I access it with Keepassium.