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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by anddam »

fsflover wrote: post #531
noduerme wrote: post #428

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I second this. I really enjoy reading and writing on an Onyx e-ink tab, and I like the full Android functionality, but I can never use it for work or even for personal email logins, because I don't trust their custom Android build. I would be somewhat more inclined to trust Daylight than Onyx, but any custom OS is too potentially vulnerable to backdoors for my use cases. Something like this that you could load your o…

> Something like this that you could load your own Linux flavor onto Did you consider PineNote?

Note tha its production was put to stop (last year IIRC) with reserve to possibly start it again. AFAICT market reception was lukewarm at best and it was not financially viable.

I would have loved one, but I guess leaving the development of a proper OS to the community is not going to land mass adoption.

Average Joe needs a device to buy and use, not to buy and tinker with.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by anddam »

alemanek wrote: post #303
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Adding an additional comment here for a little extra visibility. I would absolutely love, like really love, a USB-C portrait monitor version of this. If I could just plug this in to my existing laptop and use it for reading specs, technical docs, …etc that would be amazing. Android tablet is a tough sell for my employer due to compliance, security, and such. So buying one of those for work use would take like a year…

> If I could just plug this in to my existing laptop and use it

Or to my existing phone.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by ohmyiv »

card_zero wrote: post #351
roughly wrote: post #322

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By way of an experiment - set your phone screen to black & white (in iOS, settings -> accessibility -> display -> color filters -> [on] -> grayscale, on android, settings -> accessibility -> color & motion -> color correction -> [on] -> grayscale), and leave it that way for a day of normal use. Then, turn it off, and note how you react to the change. Folks aren't calling it calmer because they're trying to look erudi…

Just ignore them? Don't use manipulative apps? I suppose for some people this is an issue and they genuinely want a physical solution in order to stop habitually doing things they don't like, like Odysseus wanting to be tied to the mast to avoid the Sirens. I can predict how my behavior would change if I tried this: I'd be pissed off because you'd ruined my game of Heroes III (1999). And Brogue would be slightly less…

Hmmm..the way you're arguing against makes it seem like you're being manipulated. Maybe you have an issue too?

If you don't want to use it then don't. I'm not even sure why you're in here arguing against it.

> People often believe that "other people can be persuaded, but not me. I’m the smart one. It’s only those other people over there that can’t control their thought."

https://www.wired.com/story/our-minds-have-been-hijacked-by-...

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by tern »

hurril wrote: post #534

Happily interested in this, I discover that they have broken the scrolling on the homepage about this for reasons. This tells me that since they have never tried their own homepage, they don't really care about usability so their product is probably not going to be very good.

As someone who had input on the website, I can say we're very concerned about that and aiming to fix it as soon as possible. Honestly, we just didn't get it right before the launch.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by djtango »

dead5ea wrote: post #418
robsh wrote: post #343

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When plugged in to a computer, it would be cool if it reverts to being a smart display with touch screen. It could still charge and transfer files too maybe? I don’t know enough about USB-C, but I really wish devices could do dual function like this.

It's feasible: a couple of Lenovo Yoga Tabs do this* running Android 13+ until plugged in by an HDMI out (which I believe works with an adapter to USB-C). Ex: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/tablets/android-tablets/lenov... *(Not touch-enabled in display mode, I believe.) I have a Yoga Tab 13 (the more interesting sibling of the P-series) I regularly use as a standalone tablet and external laptop monitor - usually liv…

Can you run Linux on this yoga tab?

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by bjt12345 »

e-_pusher wrote: post #133
funksta wrote: post #117

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Big reMarkable 2 fan here, and it's very intriguing to see some competition to traditional eInk! Coming from the rM2, my immediate concerns are display density, and impact of the light on writing feel (both reMarkable and Ratta claim that feel suffers with the extra space between the pen tip and display). Also as someone who makes a lot of pdf-based tools for the reMarkable, I'd love to see a video or details about t…

Source: I was the chief hardware engineer for this device. The problem with eink tablets is that they must use front light, and not backlight due to how eink works. This means there is an extra layer in front of the layer where the pixels are, which causes parallax effects which makes writing feel fake. This is (likely) why remarkable deleted the frontlight from their product. Whereas with the daylight tablet, we hav…

> Whereas with the daylight tablet, we have a trans reflective display and a backlight. Since the backlight layer is behind the layer where the pixels are, the parallax does not suffer.

> I find the experience of writing with a Wacom EMR pen on mine very pleasing :)

You are burying the lead here.

This is a big deal, competitors like Onyx Boox don't do this.

And yes, it's annoying.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by manmal »

boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Let me second some other comments here - I would absolutely buy a 24“ display right away. Ideally a colored version. The available options (like Sun Vision) seem sketchy at best, eg their UK rep reached out to me and never responded back - no way I‘d pay them this much without ever seeing the display first.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by kaon_ »

If this works it is life-changing for me. Eyestrain is now one of the biggest threats to my career and killjoys in my life. I backed the EazeEye kickstarter (which was backlit LCD) but wasn't satisfied with the result.

A work day without eye strain afterward would be gold. A work day on the balcony in the sun... Omg i am looking forward to the future!

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