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Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu
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Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu
#552Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here in France, as far as I know I have a right to private copy, which I pay for through a specific tax whenever I buy storage. I can rip my DVDs, Blu-rays, or even Nintendo Switch cartridges or hard drive, perfectly legally, even if it means cracking open the thing and circumvent stuff. It's awfully less convenient than downloading the stuff, but it is legal. Or at least it was 20 years ago, but I'm not aware of any…
> Here in France, as far as I know I have a right to private copy Wrong :) You have a right to a private copy, but you don't have a right to circumvent copy protections to get that private copy. So ripping a DVD is still illegal, despite the tax. We're getting screwed :)
> […] but you don't have a right to circumvent copy protections to get that private copy.
Since when? Do you remember which law? I don't recall anything like the DMCA being ported to French law.
> So ripping a DVD is still illegal, despite the tax.
I'm pretty sure it used to be legal.
Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu
#553Earlier quoted context omitted.
It would be amazing if Valve stepped up with legal funds/protection there. They do get money from people buying SteamDecks for emulation and well... free publicity if they take on Nintendo.
That flies in the face of what Valve did TO Dolphin. It was Valve that proactively reached out to Nintendo before putting Dolphin in Steam. Of course Nintendo responded "please don't", so Dolphin got blocked.
This case isn't just about emulation; the Dolphin devs hard-coded the firmware into the emulator, which is why Nintendo had any standing. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5bfpS-WYUA
Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu
#554Earlier quoted context omitted.
It would be amazing if Valve stepped up with legal funds/protection there. They do get money from people buying SteamDecks for emulation and well... free publicity if they take on Nintendo.
On other hand after sale of device emulation does not pay... And selling games is where they earn money. Fight for emulation is useless legal fight for them and they are not org build for litigation.
But if tons of people are partly buying a Steam Deck because it is a great way to play loads of retro games from NES to Switch in the same console they are still likely to buy some games from Steam which is sitting right there.
Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu
#555Earlier quoted context omitted.
I understand your argument, and perhaps a similar one will be made to the courts. For some people, if a tool has a single legitimate user, and otherwise haa illegitimate users, then the tool should be allowed. For others, if the tool is mostly used for illegitimate means, then the tool should be banned. Where the law lands in this case will be partly based on these values, and the benefits/harms to all parties. I don…
Lock picking tools are legal and they're primarily used for illegal activities. The same can be said for gun use (not ownership). How much something is used for illegal activities should have no baring on whether it is allowed in a free country.
Not everywhere! In Poland for example having lockpicking tools is illegal and carries prison sentence unless you're licensed lockpicker.
Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu
#556Speculating here but it feels like part of Nintendo's beef is the popularity of PC form factors that look like a Nintendo Switch. Most notably the Steam Deck but there are loads of them. In 2022 Nintendo starting taking down Youtube videos showing Steam Decks running Switch games: https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-started-blocking-v... And last year went after Dolphin (GCN/Wii emulator) as soon as they announ…
>In 2022 Nintendo starting taking down Youtube videos showing Steam Decks running Switch games: https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-started-blocking-v...
What are they supposed to do? Leave videos about piracy of their own IP untouched?
It baffles me how people believe they have a fundamental right to pirate Nintendo software without consequences.
Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu
#557Earlier quoted context omitted.
It would be amazing if Valve stepped up with legal funds/protection there. They do get money from people buying SteamDecks for emulation and well... free publicity if they take on Nintendo.
I don't think this is likely. There is a convincible future where Nintendo publishes more and more games outside of their hardware platforms, so Valve needs to keep good business relations with Nintendo.
This future seems very unlikely. Nintendo has published like 1 phone game? They are very much a fan of their garden.
It course I would love to see this. I think Nintendo makes some very good games but have no interest in having specific physical hardware do end up not playing them.
Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu
#558Speculating here but it feels like part of Nintendo's beef is the popularity of PC form factors that look like a Nintendo Switch. Most notably the Steam Deck but there are loads of them. In 2022 Nintendo starting taking down Youtube videos showing Steam Decks running Switch games: https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-started-blocking-v... And last year went after Dolphin (GCN/Wii emulator) as soon as they announ…
It would be amazing if Valve stepped up with legal funds/protection there. They do get money from people buying SteamDecks for emulation and well... free publicity if they take on Nintendo.
Valve can't step up because they would lose.
Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu
#559Its really annoying how Nintendo keep on thinking that western law is equal to Japanese law.
Afaik, in Japan you do have absurd copyright law to the point where Nintendo can sue anything and anyone doing emulator or hobby project.
Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu
#560Speculating here but it feels like part of Nintendo's beef is the popularity of PC form factors that look like a Nintendo Switch. Most notably the Steam Deck but there are loads of them. In 2022 Nintendo starting taking down Youtube videos showing Steam Decks running Switch games: https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-started-blocking-v... And last year went after Dolphin (GCN/Wii emulator) as soon as they announ…
>In 2022 Nintendo starting taking down Youtube videos showing Steam Decks running Switch games: https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-started-blocking-v ... What are they supposed to do? Leave videos about piracy of their own IP untouched? It baffles me how people believe they have a fundamental right to pirate Nintendo software without consequences.
You can legally dump your cart and use it anywhere.