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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Search for it in the Play Store, first icons are Crypto.com and Gemini: Buy Bitcoin & Crypto options to install Scroll past the screenshots of those apps Scroll past the Limitied-time events Scroll past the You Might Also Like and Similar Apps OK now we see it, we install, it we launch it and..."Gemini isn't ccurrently available. Try again later." Bravo Google. Great launch.

For your first point - it actually makes me happy that Google does not intentionally (illegally?) promote their own products over others in the app store. I assume their app is following the same algorithm as others to determine how it shows up on that list. Since it just launched, it makes sense it's not at the top. The ranking should improve.

For your second point - I also had the same error when I launched it. Closed it and tried again and it launched no problem.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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> Your conversations are processed by human reviewers to improve the technologies powering Gemini Apps. Don’t enter anything you wouldn’t want reviewed or used. I appreciate them being upfront with that, but for a paid feature, it sucks that they offer no privacy or opt-out mechanism.

It seems like you can disable the data being used from training by turning off gemini app activity.

> You can turn Gemini Apps Activity off If you don’t want future conversations reviewed or used to improve machine-learning models, turn off Gemini Apps Activity Opens in a new window .

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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In the 20 minutes of experimentation, I'm really impressed with the quality of Bard Advanced (Gemini Ultra). The results are as good as GPT-4, and in some cases is better. So far: pros: - better at translation (tried Chinese and Japanese idioms to English) - better at incorporating search results in its answer vs gpt-4 bing cons: - slightly worse at coding - censorship is more annoying (have to ask multiple times abo…

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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#556

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If we want to test these beasts in logic, we should probably start using actual formalized logic, rather than English. In just one test, Gemini flopped hard, while GPT-4-Turbo nailed it. Here is my prompt: Below is a well-typed CoC function: foo : ∀(P: Nat -> *) ∀(s: ∀{n} -> ∀(x: (P n)) -> (P (n + 1))) ∀(z: (P 0)) (P 3) = λP λs λz (s (s (s z))) Below is an incomplete CoC function: foo : ∀(P: Nat -> *) ∀(f: ∀{n} -> ∀(…

Such a weird test. 99.9% of humans wouldn't even understand the question, let alone be able to formulate a coherent answer for it.

Why is this relevant to the performance of a computer program? It makes sense to me that computer programs & humans should continue to be judged by different standards.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#557
>com.google.android.apps.bard

is it though...

Also, no availability outside of the US?

My go-to on android right now is copilot which is basically free gpt4 turbo and dall-e 3 (and also available outside of the US).

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft....

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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It’s sad that a company of very smart people can’t figure out coherent naming. Can you imagine Apple causing confusion like this? I know it’s not a like-for-like comparison, but everything Apple does it seems like they have a grand strategy that’s clear for everyone to see. Things build up in a modular way to fit a big puzzle. Google, on the other hand, constantly makes up things on an ad hoc basis.

> Can you imagine Apple causing confusion like this? After 14 years of using Siri, I can't imagine Apple developing any competent AI tools in the first place.

My impression is they haven’t focused much on general purpose AI. But Apple actually has a lot of very good AI models sprinkled throughout its products. Just a few that come to mind…

- Tap and hold an object in Photos and it will figure out how to separate it from the background for you

- AirPods noise cancelation

- iOS 17 autocorrect is based on a transformer model and works noticeably better

- Optimized Battery Charging, which learns your charging habits and tries to delay putting a full charge into your battery until just before you unplug, in order to avoid damaging the battery

- Detection Mode is an awesome accessibility feature where you point the camera at something and it will describe what it sees

Apple calls all of these things Machine Learning instead of AI and they are all optional features within an existing product. Seems like a very deliberate strategy. But they are utilizing the latest techniques. CoreML and the M series chips are also very competent at training and using AI models.

Maybe the reason Siri is stuck in the dark ages is because it would be entirely AI dependent. They could have a “no generative AI” mode but nobody would use it. I’m guessing Apple is looking for a breakthrough in how to prevent it from hallucinating / lying.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#559

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ERRATA: I just noticed GPT-4 mixed up `h` and `f`, so it also got it wrong. This is a draw. Both AIs (and, apparently, myself) are terrible at reasoning. Guess we're not curing cancer with computers anytime soon :')

I've been using GPT-4 to help me understand my MSc mathematics course and I've noticed this sort of stuff more and more as I start to look at the answers, always confidently written, in detail. Way back when GPT was just fresh on the scene I had terrible anxiety about "what is the point of my whole career or even learning any more" but these days I'm much less concerned. I'll ask it something relatively simple, like…

This sort of issue holds with all kinds of prompts, on both platforms. I most recently (to test Bard's image generation capabilities) was asking Bard/Gemini to generate home designs using highly specific prompts -- layout of the house, materials for the facade, window placement and style, etc -- and it was shocking how frequently it would just ignore critical pieces of the prompt, and then continue to ignore when corrected.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

#560

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Google Work Paying users always get the short end of the stick.

Workspace users always get features after free consumer accounts so that organization admins have time to evaluate them, update training materials, etc. This is a feature, not a bug. And of course there are lots of features that Workspace accounts get, that free accounts don't get at all. Like the timeline view in Sheets.

So instead of giving you a feature toggle, they just don’t give you the feature at all.
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