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Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by gloosx »

jeremyjh wrote: post #523
globalnode wrote: post #516

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yeah i noticed that too, whats so hard to just get a simple editor that gets the job done without so much wasted energy and code.

Why is another one of those needed? Personally I'm excited about the idea of a feature-rich editor that is still blazing fast.

It is not really needed, but this one is definitely here for the sake of announced commercial plans. Maybe it is faster than vscode, but it is still not fast enough like most of based terminal editors. I just made my benchmarks with 500MB of dev/urandom bytes to open on clean nvim and zed. Nvim opens it in 20 seconds while it takes 30 for zed, so I can say there is at least something inside the core engine which works 50% slower that of my champion's. Non of the landing page benchmarks at zed features a fair competition with really fast and great editors.

Editor's main purpose is to edit, and i don't think that stuffing anything else in the basic box without user asking for it is necessary. You can always pick a plugin if you need AI or collaboration or suddenly hundred species of messenger is not enough and it MUST be inside you editor instead of a usual swipe to an adjacent screen.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by MrJohz »

philsnow wrote: post #251

I opened a random python project on my machine in Zed and it automatically loaded up an LSP for python. It looks like it's using the same one as my emacs uses (pyright), but it presents completion choices in a not particularly useful order. Typing `os.p` gives me for instance as completion choices: pwritev pwrite putenv popen pipe path P_ALL P_PID pread pardir P_PGID P_WAIT ... but then I type 'a' and then backspace…

Yeah, I noticed while writing Typescript that it was suggesting `String` above `string`. In Javascript and Typescript, there are almost no situations where `String` is the correct thing to use, so this choice surprised me.

I tried it out today, and in all fairness it is a very attractive and pleasant-to-use editor, but it felt like it was missing a lot of the little details. Things like suggestion order, or being able to open terminals side-by-side, or showing quickly where all the type errors are in my project or even a single file.

The collaboration tools sounds really neat, but unless I can convince colleagues to use it with me, I don't have anyone to collaborate with! For that, the little details are hugely important.

That said, it looks and feels wonderful, it's a very elegant tool.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by mcfedr »

zogrodea wrote: post #254
mcfedr wrote: post #132

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You've chosen to let the Russians spy on your web browser?

I don't understand this comment because American/European governments (where I would guess most HN commenters are from) are almost certainly doing the same thing according to what we've learned about for example the NSA. Maybe you trust your own government more.

There is a big difference between a government that is ultimately on your side. And a government that is actively trying to kill you.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by mcfedr »

zogrodea wrote: post #254
mcfedr wrote: post #132

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You've chosen to let the Russians spy on your web browser?

I don't understand this comment because American/European governments (where I would guess most HN commenters are from) are almost certainly doing the same thing according to what we've learned about for example the NSA. Maybe you trust your own government more.

And anyway, it's a bad comparison, there is a conspiracy that, say Google or Firefox is collaborating, but it's very clear that yandex is an arm of the Russian government

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by 9dev »

shortrounddev2 wrote: post #518
9dev wrote: post #189

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This. The worst thing is that I get mad at them for not doing what I want them to, faster, when the tooling and my crooked explanations are at fault, not them. Not that I mention that out loud, but sometimes I feel ashamed for those feelings. Having real time collaboration that works so seamlessly as Zed apparently does would really get me to consider switching IDEs!

I feel no shame for getting mad at my coworkers

Maybe not your peers, but I hope you feel at least alittle guilty for being mad at junior developers under your guidance:)

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by machomaster »

Alifatisk wrote: post #468
machomaster wrote: post #130

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I have the same issue in Yandex Browser (based on Chrome) on Android.

I think this is my first time reading about someone using Yandex browser

You should check it out (for mobile) and share your opinion.

It has all kinds of interesting features like automatically translating (and voicing) youtube videos.

Address on the bottom of the screen is a total killer.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by machomaster »

mcfedr wrote: post #554
zogrodea wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand this comment because American/European governments (where I would guess most HN commenters are from) are almost certainly doing the same thing according to what we've learned about for example the NSA. Maybe you trust your own government more.

And anyway, it's a bad comparison, there is a conspiracy that, say Google or Firefox is collaborating, but it's very clear that yandex is an arm of the Russian government

And what is this clarity of the Holland-registered company being an arm of Putin is based on? Specifically in terms of software/privacy.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Post by machomaster »

mcfedr wrote: post #553
zogrodea wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand this comment because American/European governments (where I would guess most HN commenters are from) are almost certainly doing the same thing according to what we've learned about for example the NSA. Maybe you trust your own government more.

There is a big difference between a government that is ultimately on your side. And a government that is actively trying to kill you.

As a Finn, both American government and Putin have the same amount of energy put into trying to kill be. As in zero energy. Because if it weren't zero, I would already be dead. And it would happen kinetically, not through capturing my browser history.
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