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The case for single-stair multifamily

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Re: The case for single-stair multifamily

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That's easy: your barber operating a business out of his house will result in customers coming to your neighborhood, and that might bring "those people" around, and we can't have that.

That's ridiculous. Those people can't get even get to the neighborhood because the residents have gone out of their way to eliminate public transit (which is for poors).

It's all relative. Plenty of poorer people have cars, but instead of $150k cars, they have cheap-o $25k cars. We can't have those kind of people in our neighborhood.

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Some possible reasons for why American fire trucks tend to be larger: * more frequently sent to rural homes, where there might not be an available hydrant, so they need to transport all the water they're likely to need * same for wildfires * American homes more likely to be wood+drywall

I would simply have small firetrucks in urban areas, and large fire trucks in rural areas.

That's utterly impossible. It's the same reason America can't have public transit: since it doesn't make economic sense in small remote towns of 200 people, then it can't be done in huge cities. I can't explain the logic, but this really is how most Americans think.

Re: The case for single-stair multifamily

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Side answer. This kind of regulation lifts GDP by mandating some sort of economic activity. A barber in a room in his house means less rental, less money for commercial real estate company, less money spent buying "commercial" chairs and commercial chemicals. And thousands of other things I can't even fathom as the scope of this problem is huge and so intertwined with all other economic activity.

What are you on about? It does the exact opposite. I can’t believe I’m seeing this on HN.

What do you mean? This is a perfectly possible / valid theory, you're welcome to try poke at it if you're open to debate instead of dismissing me.

Re: The case for single-stair multifamily

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You already have shanty towns with all the regulation. Making housing cheaper also means making higher quality housing cheaper.

> Making housing cheaper also means making higher quality housing cheaper. Or, much more likely, builder profits higher.

Nothing wrong with that.

Competition will sort that out.

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Cartel's can't just magically set prices. They can withhold supply, and that might have an effect on market prices.

Ehm, what? Of course cartels can magically set prices. That's what a cartel is for: to make collusion easier.

Even OPEC can't magically set prices. Cartels make collusion easier, but you still have to do concrete steps to raise market prices.

OPEC does that via production cuts. Or rather tries to do that.

Re: The case for single-stair multifamily

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That's ridiculous. Those people can't get even get to the neighborhood because the residents have gone out of their way to eliminate public transit (which is for poors).

It's all relative. Plenty of poorer people have cars, but instead of $150k cars, they have cheap-o $25k cars. We can't have those kind of people in our neighborhood.

Here in Singapore, we only have about 1 million licenses for cars total. They are auctioned off to the highest bidder.

So there are no cheap-o $25k cars. (The car itself might be cheap, but you need the license to run it.)

My description in this context is a bit tongue-in-cheek, but this is actually a great system given the limited road space we have here. And auctioning off the licenses is about the most economically efficient way to allocate them.

Re: The case for single-stair multifamily

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It's all relative. Plenty of poorer people have cars, but instead of $150k cars, they have cheap-o $25k cars. We can't have those kind of people in our neighborhood.

Here in Singapore, we only have about 1 million licenses for cars total. They are auctioned off to the highest bidder. So there are no cheap-o $25k cars. (The car itself might be cheap, but you need the license to run it.) My description in this context is a bit tongue-in-cheek, but this is actually a great system given the limited road space we have here. And auctioning off the licenses is about the most economicall…

Here in Tokyo, they do things a little differently (and pretty sensibly I think): you simply can't own and register a car in the city unless you have a place to park it. So you have to get some kind of proof from the police showing they've certified you have a parking space that will fit the car, and they come out with a measuring tape to check too, based on the car's actual dimensions. So if you can afford a parking place, you can own a car. Otherwise, no. So car prices are subject to market forces and not artificially constrained; the constraint is the actual land area available for parking, and that's subject to market forces too, since it could be used for something else like a building, so parking tends to be expensive.

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No elevator would be a no-no here. What if you were in a wheelchair?

Three-story walk-ups are common and legal in America, if that is where "Here" is for you. If you are in a wheelchair, you rent a ground floor unit.

Only if built before the ADA.

Re: The case for single-stair multifamily

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How is double stair MFH overzealous? I can’t control if my neighbor blocks the stairwell with a couch that gets stuck while he’s moving in and now I have no egress if my other neighbor starts a fire. I’m in favor of greater freedoms, and the freedom to choose a single stair MFH if I want. But I don’t want.

We should require two stairs for single family housing as well. The elderly and disabled will also need to get furniture up stairs. Not to mention that the housing shortage forces more people to share a house with strangers.

>Not to mention that the housing shortage forces more people to share a house with strangers.

Or, you could just build more housing... And stop insisting on so much living space while you're at it. Here in Tokyo, no one lives with strangers, even if they get minimum wage. They can still afford an apartment by themselves, though it'll be a very small apartment that's certainly illegal to build in America.

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