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Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Weird. Is your wife's phone nearby by chance? The only time this happens to me it's because we are both walking to the car together and her phone unlocks it before mine does.

Even if she were near, I'd expect it to select her profile and let me select mine. Instead it deletes my profile entirely and I need to reconfigure my seat, mirrors, and any drive settings that are now at default.

There's a setting I just noticed for the first time this morning that lets you define a phone as the "primary" device - the description in the UI suggests its to prevent issues like you described. I'm not sure how long that feature is been there, but my phone is set up as the primary, and I've not had any weird profile issues. To be fair though, my wife rarely ever drives the Model 3, so we've had fewer chances to see any issues.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Just saw that they put the right and left indicator on the Cybertruck on top of each other on the left side of the steering wheel. Yeah that some really innovative UI. Watch MKBHD’s video on the Cybertruck and you’ll see that they’ve ran out of innovation and are just changing things for the sake of changing them. No rear view camera, driving console on top, no latch for glove compartment, no door handles, etc. I’m a…

Have you driven a car without stalks? A yoke with turn signal buttons is better than stalks, I don't have to move my hand to signal

How to push a button while turning a steering? It's sometimes needed.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Nobody in this world wants to buy a leaf. (At least not the original model)

Data point of one but: I did!

I might also have bought one if I had been in the market for a car at that time. But not because I would have wanted it, but because I would have needed it :)

I think my comment above was indeed a bit snarky and is rightfully getting downvoted.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Tesla Model 3, owner here. The list of reasons why I will never buy a Tesla again is too long, but they pretty much all boil down to cheap parts and poor build quality. That goes for their software also, absolute junk.

Can you please elaborate on that list? I've had a Model 3 for two and a half years and it's still the best driving experience I've ever had.

Not the OP, but I've daily driven a Model 3 for several years now and have a list. It's not a huge list, and some of them aren't unique to Tesla, but a lot are.

Problems that I think are unique to the Tesla:

Even after 4+ years of driving, I still hate the door handles. They require so much more dexterity than "normal" car door handles. You gotta aim your thumb at a quarter sized spot, then push in so that your fingers have a chance to catch the lever before you pull your thumb away. Normal car doors are stupid enough that they could be opened by a lobster. When the Model 3 handles freeze (which happens where I live), the user manual instructs you to hit the handles with your fist. Like a caveman. How about real door handles?

The entire top sheet of glass spontaneously shattered while just sitting in my garage. I was sweeping the other side of my garage one afternoon when there was what sounded like a gunshot. I looked over and saw that the top class window had just fully cracked diagonally across the entire pane. There were no rock chips on its front edge (a common precursor to full shatter), no kids standing on it (a less common precursor). My best guess is that the body of the car warmed up in the garage after coming in from the cold, but the glass itself wasn't yet warm enough and that was enough to cause thermal expansion that was incompatible with it wanting to remain whole. Cost $1500 to replace, and Tesla refused to cover it under warranty, claiming it was not a manufacturing defect. No appeal, no second opinion. Also, it was during covid, and it took 7 weeks for the glass to arrive. So for 7 weeks, I had a very big, open, sunroof.

Then there's the UI. This is my single biggest gripe. Parts of it are objectively terrible.

The part of the UI that tells you how fast your car is going is, compared to the rest of the UI, microscopic, and rendered in a grey on white background. It's not in your line of sight, which requires you to turn to look at it. I figured out a hack though - let someone else, like my wife, tell me when I'm speeding. That only works when she's in the car though. When she's not in the car and tells me I'm speeding, I tend to ignore her.

When you're stopped at a stop, there are dancing grey car and truck models all over the place. There was a tiny old Toyota pickup truck next to me the other day, and the UI wanted to simultaneously render it as a traffic cone, a big box truck, a motorcycle, and then a sedan. It never could make up its mind, and decided to just place it sideways growing halfway out of the model of a box truck that was meant to represent the Toyota Corolla that was in front of me. What's the point of devoting more than a third of the UI to this endeavor? To show me how wrong the computer always is about what's around me?

Here's a fun one that made it to my list super early into my ownership experience: sometimes the UI will reboot while you're driving 75MPH in the middle of rush hour traffic. That makes for some serious puckering, even if it's happened 10 times before. No worries though, after driving blind for about 2 minutes it comes back online.

One time, it came back online to the "romance" app, showing a lovely fireplace and adjust the fans to gently blow warm air on me to set the mood. I was not in the mood. I was using the route navigation to get me someplace. Instead of knowing what exit to take, I was enjoying a warm fire. On an August afternoon in Los Angeles rush hour traffic.

Then there's the Autopilot experience. Not Full Self Driving, but just Autopilot. When you're using it to stay within lanes, it'll aggressively try to center itself in the lane, which is good for staying in the lane, but if you pass an onramp, and the right lane line vanishes for that onramp to merge into the lane you're in, the car will violently align itself between the left lane line, and the onramp's right lane lane. It'll happily do that whether you're going 20 MPH or 100 MPH. I don't use Autopilot any more.

When I go to work in the morning, while backing out the overlays that show your rear and side cameras will appear, but imagery from the cameras will often take over a minute to appear. But not always, and it's that part that's the most unsettling. Why be slow sometimes and not others?

Let's talk about the front trunk latch. Is there an actual trick to close it the first time, gently? I still don't know how to best close it. I don't think I'm alone either. Yesterday while at a Super Charger I saw two different people trying to close their frunk at least 3 to 4 times each. One of them even got into an argument with their passenger for how best to do it. I rarely use my frunk anymore because I hate trying to close it.

What's crazy to me is: despite all of what I just said, damn I love driving it.

It's why I think Tesla is stupid for not pursing a bare bones, "dumb" version of the Model 3. Give it physical buttons, no driving assist fluff, real door handles, minimal glass. I'd trade in my current Model 3 for that, no question.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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There is a service screen in the UI with alerts and details on when tires were last changed. There is an alert for windshield fluid.

my UI doesn't have that. I've changed my tires myself and there was nowhere to enter the data. Do you mean the app or in car? If a non-tesla person changes my tires, they haven't done anything. I don't take my car to tesla for tires anymore. They charge you for everything , and offer no warranty. (also, my tires cannot be rotated)

I'm running a Model 3 with 2023.44.39 on it. In the Service menu there are a variety of exactly the things you mentioned.

In the top right corner there is "Tire Service Mileage" with an estimate of when you should service your tires. There is a reset link under that, which links into the "Wheel and Tire" service tab with more maintenance options.

There are alerts for nearly all of the things you mentioned: https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-E95DAAD...

Regarding the tire wear, the car is heavy with instant torque. I've had to replace my tires quite a few times, but it's the only thing that has needed much servicing for me in the past three years. I'd expect that from a new car though, and I don't have much confidence in it's longevity.

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I never understood why a car company would WANT to do better than a software company. Just make something with fully integrated CarPlay or Android auto with a failsafe for rentals or those without phones that don’t want to pair. If you want the fully featured maps, guidance just pair your phone. Done. CarPlay is leagues beyond anything I have seen otherwise in an infotainment system.

I actually suspect this is a cultural thing with Japan and feature phones being a pretty dominant thing. Maybe they just don't see the priority in Carplay.

Car navigation unit for Japan was great (still great for navigation functionality), so perhaps people don't need CarPlay than other countries where car navi unit is poor. Though now most companies sell their car with "display audio" unit with CarPlay support.

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All this should be recommended in the UI. The car DOES have maintenance needs. Lots of people in models X & S are surprised to find their seemingly ok tires are NOT OK because they wear very quickly on the non-visible inside edge. there are brakes on the car, which have pads and fluid. There is coolant for the battery. Honestly, there should be a maintenance screen in the UI. You should be able to replace tires, or w…

Wait, Tesla does not have that? If not, that is really, really dumb, and there is no way to justify not doing that. Especially for car that probably has more sensors, electronics and software than most cars (that also provide such info).

They do, the parent is either on an older tesla software platform or they haven't looked at settings > service and have ignored the alerts when they occur.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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I've had my car for about the same length of time. It is fun to drive when it's working. The first two years were uneventful, but it was evident that the build quality was subpar and the software substandard. And I'm not referring to the entertainment system here, but rather the software that controls the car itself, which falls short compared to my Volvo XC60. The fly-by-wire system lacks the necessary redundancies…

> It took several service appointments and months to convince them otherwise, requiring me to mount a GoPro in my car and dangerously recreate the issue, which randomly occurred after about 45 minutes of cruise control driving. Then post the video and publicly call them out? > It wasn't until I contacted their PR department and threatened to involve the press that they took the matter seriously. This is where ya lose…

Tesla had a PR department up until October 2020. It's entirely possible that the person you're replying to was experiencing the issue before that date.

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> 3. Never in my life have I just stared at the speedometer. Why are you staring at it so much? Is something wrong? Without checking speedometer often, how do you know if you're not going above the speed limit?

Drive by feel, isn’t this something everyone develops? You start to notice how fast things move outside the windows like trees, poles, lane lines. Admittedly, if stressed or excited then I tend to go a little faster but I check the speedometer then. Also I drive ICE and can hear/feel the engine. Guess that would be different in a Tesla. Anyways, generally plenty of feedback to observe without needing to glue your eye…

I often discover I'm going well over the speed limit when driving my Model 3. I don't think the lack of speedometer (that I can see without looking down and to the right) is entirely to blame - though its location not being in my line of sight doesn't improve things.

For me, it's the relative silence of going from 0-60 MPH in under 4 seconds that does it. I have an ICE car that can almost do that, but it does so very loudly requires me to shift gears manually as it happens. It's a full body and mind experience, one full of very obvious feedback.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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We don't like "getting used to" going back in history. Where the f*ck is a HUD in a tesla? That's exactly the kind of car which should be getting cool space-age tech like that. Elon already went on twitter and said no HUD ever and disparaged people asking for it. Why did another comment saying basically the same thing get mass downvoted and killed? HUDs are some of the coolest features in cars and tesla refusing to i…

I've seen a HUD in a non-Tesla car and it was a gimmick at best. At worst, it obscures part of your vision. It also causes more eye strain to use, because there's movement in the background compared to a dashboard.

The HUD is order qualifying for me now. I’ve had it in four BMWs, and if I had to do without gauges (which I don’t, because that is idiotic), the only acceptable substitute would be an HUD.
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