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Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Not to over analyze, but no matter if I'm on a bike or car I've always thought you shouldn't drive alongside or in the blindspot of another vehicle if you can avoid it (by a minute change in speed).

I'd rather be next to a car than behind a car, and ahead is always best. The issue arises when you don't speed (which I don't do).

Like, not even a little bit?

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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I'm rooting for it despite it being silly and not a practical pickup, strictly because every car people are buying looks identical (picture a crossover SUV from Toyota, Chevy, BMW etc. Basically shoe-shaped things). This looks like a concept car that would never come to market. I hope it sells really well and convinces others to bring actually-creative designs to market.

> ...because every car people are buying looks identical... Why wouldn't you expect this sort of convergence? A bunch of companies trying to solve the same problems with the same constraints are likely to find very similar solutions. We saw it with aviation - over time, jet aircraft look more and more like each other, because certain solutions, once they become available (twinjets demonstrating enough reliability for…

I do wish it was common to have more colours at least, everything on the road being black, white, or silver is really bland and soulless in my opinion.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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There's room in the market for both of these types of vehicles. Asking people who typically buy big luxury cars to 'just buy a smaller car' would be nice in theory, but isn't going to happen in practice. There are many reasons, valid or potentially invalid, to own a larger car or a truck, and often you're not going to change people's minds on that.

I agree. I'm saying that the folks buying the former should not be doing so under the pretense that it's better for the environment, or society.

But, no, that's not right. If someone is typically a buyer of a ... Range Rover, or a BMW X5, or something like that, then replacing that car with an EV of equivalent size makes a proportionally larger impact on the environment than someone who replaces their Corolla with a small EV.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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1kg of petrol/gasoline is ~48MJ. 1kg of Lithim-ion battery is ~0.25MJ/kg. Gasoline is ~192X energy dense compared to Lithium-ion batteries. Li-on is the most popular battery due to its cost and weight. In terms of weight: Tesla model Y = ~4,500 lbs. F-150 lightning = ~6,500 lbs. Rivian R1T = ~7,000 lbs. Hummer EV = ~9,000 lbs. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Cybertruck = ~5,400 lbs A human roughly weighs 160lbs (~72kg). Buying electric tr…

And then burning coal to charge the batteries.... But these cars are electric!

The US Grid is an 18% coal mix...

... and no new coal plants are being fired to support electric vehicles.

Coal turbines at scale are efficient when compared to thousands of internal combustion engines.

Combine that efficiency with scrubbers and lined waste retention ponds for any plant built in the last 50 years.

It's also not an either/or; A person buying an electric car can vote, support, or install (or offset credit) renewables.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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From Isaacson's recent biography: > At one point, Isaacson describes Musk becoming enraged when, working on the Tesla Model S, he finds a government-mandated warning about child airbag safety on the passenger-side visor. “Get rid of them,” he demands. “People aren’t stupid. These stickers are stupid.” Tesla faces recall notices because of the change, Isaacson reports, but Musk “didn’t back down.” This company and the…

except teslas very safe cars

According to what objective standard? Can you qualify your claim as I have?

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Yeah, the formula for road damage is a very fast growing function ((vehicle weight^4)/number of axles)

Just tax them by the same formula and watch cars getting smaller and smaller. And getting more axles I suppose.

If the world did work that way it would be nice, lol. I imagine such a proposal in the US would be met with "we're trying to destroy the EV industry!!!!"

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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I'm sure that the lower regulatory environment in Texas was much more of a factor. Musk has complained for a long time about California's regulations.

The original plan was to put the first production line in Mexico. Then Musk realized his engineers wouldn't be commuting or moving to Mexico, and he wanted them to spend time on the factory floor so they could see what was hard to make. (Source: Isaacson's Musk bio)

1. Isaacson's Musk biography was so poorly written and fawning I couldn't finish it. I take nothing in it as fact, mostly PR and hagiography.

2. Musk has had lots of plans. Plans that he dumps the minute he changes his mind.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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The original plan was to put the first production line in Mexico. Then Musk realized his engineers wouldn't be commuting or moving to Mexico, and he wanted them to spend time on the factory floor so they could see what was hard to make. (Source: Isaacson's Musk bio)

1. Isaacson's Musk biography was so poorly written and fawning I couldn't finish it. I take nothing in it as fact, mostly PR and hagiography. 2. Musk has had lots of plans. Plans that he dumps the minute he changes his mind.

I thought it portrayed Musk's flaws pretty vividly, but I guess if you started out convinced that Musk is a terrible human being with no redeeming qualities whatsoever, it would seem like fawning hagiography by comparison.

In any case, it was widely believed in the investor community that the Mexico plant was where the next-gen vehicle would be produced. I don't think California was ever really considered.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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I'd rather be next to a car than behind a car, and ahead is always best. The issue arises when you don't speed (which I don't do).

Like, not even a little bit?

5 over, maximum. I did 10 over by accident once. Motorcycles are exponentially more dangerous at speed, and I like being alive.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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except teslas very safe cars

According to what objective standard? Can you qualify your claim as I have?

The article from Euro NCAP discusses the strong safety debut of Asian newcomers in the automobile market, but highlights that the Tesla Model Y stands out in terms of safety. Tesla vehicles are noted for their considerable weight and low center of gravity, attributes that make them difficult to roll over. Additionally, these cars are equipped with numerous built-in safety features and warnings. Another key aspect of Tesla's safety is their relatively recent design, which incorporates modern safety standards and technologies. Given these points, it raises the question: what are the reasons to doubt the safety of Tesla cars?

https://www.euroncap.com/en/press-media/press-releases/asian...

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