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Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by agsnu »

imgabe wrote: post #340
9dev wrote: post #288

I don’t quite buy your Cyberpunk utopia where the Megacorp finally rids us of those pesky ethics qualms (or ”shackles“, as you phrased it.) Microsoft can now proceed without the guidance of a council that actually has humanities interests in mind, not only those of Microsoft shareholders. I don’t know whether all that caution will turn out to have been necessary, but I guess we’re just gleefully heading into whatever…

You might notice that Microsoft shareholders are also part of humanity and destroying humanity would be highly detrimental to Microsoft's profits, so maybe their interests are not as misaligned as you think. I am always bemused by how people assume any corporate interest is automatically a cartoon supervillain who wants to destroy the entire world just because.

I'm sure Exxon's shareholders and leadership were also part of humanity in the 70s & 80s, and presumably by your logic this means they wouldn't have put their corporate profits ahead of suppressing climate research that perhaps indicated that their greed would contribute to an existential threat to civilisation and the quality of life of their children & grandchildren?

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by consumer451 »

In my humble opinion, everyone moved way too fast in this whole thing. I can't help but imagine that emotions were involved due to the speed.

Instead of a 5PM Sunday deadline, maybe it should have been "let's talk next week."

Maybe it would have worked out the same in any case, but it seems like it would have been wiser.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by sensanaty »

I don't buy into the whole AGI hyper-hypewave, but on the off chance that we're somehow heading towards it with these fancy chatbots we have, what a depressing fucking outcome it's gonna be if Micro$oft of all things is the one in control of it.

We really are entering the dystopia of the cartoonishly evil megacorp enslaving all of humanity to make the graph go up by 1.2%.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by dkrich »

summerlight wrote: post #264

This looks like a short term compromise to defend MSFT before the market opens. A number of members will follow Sam and Greg, but I doubt if it will be the majority given it's yet another big tech rather than a brand new startup. And what would be their roles? Yet another VP/SVP? Those folks are not really AI guys and don't fit very nicely into all the bureaucracy rampant in big techs. Satya will of course try to giv…

Yep feels like a desperate attempt by nadella to restore confidence in him and Microsoft’s massive investment and news like this can easily change on a dime

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by Herbstluft »

LewisVerstappen wrote: post #448
mighmi wrote: post #411

Amazing to see this on the front page multiple times and reposted every 20 minutes, each time as the highest performer on new. I've never seen such story velocity before.

This is probably the biggest single weekend in tech ever? And crazy news just keeps on coming…

If this is supposed to be the biggest single weekend in tech ever I don't know what to say

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by coolkoala »

I think OpenAI should just focus on doing basic AI research for the time being, at least until their Microsoft deal lapses.

Hopefully, they find a more diverse group of partners in the future that respect their mission as a non-profit (which so happens to own a for-profit subsidiary).

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by neel8986 »

blackoil wrote: post #123
shubhamjain wrote: post #99

Have to give it to Satya. There's a thin possibility that Microsoft would have to write-off its whole $10B (or more?) investment in OpenAI, but that isn't Satya's focus. The focus is on what he can do next. Maybe, recruit the most formidable AI team in the world, removed from the shackles of an awkward non-profit owning a for-profit company? Give enough (cash) incentives and most of OpenAI employees would have no qua…

10 billion was potential investment. They transfer that in tranches, so lot of it is still in MS bank. They already have access to GPT3/4/turbo + Dalle 2/3. Plus with its hordes of lawyers, it will be an uphill battle for OpenAI to make MS lose.

Make the model open source and lets see what MS can do with army of lawyers

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by facu17y »

Sam didn't create the breakthroughs behind the current GPT.

He did not create the breakthroughs behind the next GPT.

None of the people that may follow have the same handle on the tech as Ilya. I mean they built up Ilya's image in our mind so much, that he's one of a kind genius (or maybe Musk did that) and now we are to believe that his genius doesn't matter and that Microsoft already knows how to create AGI and that OpenAI is no longer relevant?

Or did I get it wrong?

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by singularity2001 »

cphoover wrote: post #414
nostromo wrote: post #82

This is sorta brilliant. Microsoft has access to almost everything OpenAI does. And now Altman and Brockman will have that access too. Meanwhile, I imagine their tenure at MSFT will be short-lived, because hot-shot startup folks don’t really want to work there. They can stabilize, use OpenAI’s data and models for free, use Microsoft’s GPUs at cost, and start a new company shortly, of which Microsoft will own some lar…

"brilliant" I think "predictable" is more apt.

link to your prediction?
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