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Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by dash2 »

foogazi wrote: post #436
rhaway84773 wrote: post #269

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I think the Instagram branding is deliberate. Instagram is not a heavy political brand. This will attract the less controversial groups )like bird watchers) that generate great revenue while keeping out the controversial political ones that are massive money pits.

The influencers and brands are already there

Yeah, this is an underrated point. The huge advantage that Instagram has over Mastodon and Bluesk is everyone is already on it. The bootstrap problem is already solved. By the world's least ethical company. It sucks but this is how we live in the Age of Scale.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by Nursie »

irishloop wrote: post #273
afavour wrote: post #234

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I couldn't disagree more. I don't see any sign Meta understands what made Twitter great, and the fact that they're heavily branding it with Instagram, using Instagram logins etc suggests to me that they're just looking for another angle to vacuum up user data. Maybe I'm unusual but the accounts I follow on Instagram and Twitter do not have a huge amount of crossover so the fact that their onboarding process tries to…

I don't see any evidence Musk understands what made Twitter great, either. At this point, someone just needs to stand up a Twitter clone that can handle the traffic because I think most regular Twitter users are having a much worse experience on there now -- from my own anecdotal experience as a semi-heavy twitter user.

> At this point, someone just needs to stand up a Twitter clone that can handle the traffic ...

Isn't that exactly what meta are doing here?

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by frankacter »

john_max_1 wrote: post #434
Shawnj2 wrote: post #425

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Also worth nothing Instagram has been pretty good at eating other apps’s lunch, specifically Snapchat and later TikTok. Obviously Snapchat and TikTok are still things and are quite popular but the instagram versions of those features are quite good and the network effect is important.

Instagram is good at improving their app experience by incorporating features. However, it is not good at launching standalone apps either. Consider 1. Boomerang - https://www.niemanlab.org/reading/instagram-launches-a-standalone-app-boomerang-that-turns-photos-into-a-1-second-video-loop/ 2. Shopping app that was never launched? - https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/4/17819766/instagram-shopping-app-e-commerce 3. Layout…

> However, it is not good at launching standalone apps either.

That's ok, and in many ways preferable and transparently communicated in many cases. They spin off an independent application, build an audience, figure out what features best convert and migrate those to the primary platform and transition the userbase over to it. Rinse and repeat.

It allows them to try, learn and refine in a sandboxed environment and bring the best over.

They often talk of this process in terms of their "experiments"

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by ehnto »

gfodor wrote: post #186
mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

Twitter is the idea app, Instagram is the thirst trap app. It's not going to work.

Well that is a little naive, Twitter is full of porn. It is probably one of it's largest userbases.

It's not a particularly wholesome platform even on the "ideas" front. It's just as bad as any other mainstream internet platform.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by nharada »

abledon wrote: post #478
imustbeevil wrote: post #96

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As someone who wants all of the other things he's supposed to be building, I can't imagine how you would not see Twitter as an objective step back. Every single change he has made to Twitter is exclusively to claw back income from users because he made all of the advertisers leave. Anyone competent would have just added the features they wanted without burning 80% of the company's income and staff.

Elon has said he's ok losing money on Twitter. Its about providing a free speech platform where people with opposing views are allowed to express them.

Please, his actions make it clear that it’s his views he cares about and anyone opposing them is not welcome.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by ehnto »

111111IIIIIII wrote: post #174
mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

Twitter will persist as long as Journalists stay on it, and everyone paying attention knows that, including Musk.

Same with news outlets, government accounts, agency and municipality accounts etc. Forcing login was such a tonedeaf move. Twitter was a broadcast platform, the internet soapbox, now it can't be and there's no reason for those accounts to stick around. Previously those entities could assume Twitter was essentially the internet's town centre, now they can't.

I wonder if it was an attempt to cater to advertisers concerns over bot traffic inflating ad numbers.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by takeda »

TobyTheDog123 wrote: post #213
mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

I could not disagree more. I really don't think people are going to trust Meta that much more over Twitter. I'm a pretty avid Twitter lurker and I don't even plan on trying out the app. I'm also a very happy Lemmy and Mastodon user, but going from Twitter to Threads is just trading Elon for Zuckerberg - a useless lateral move.

This is thing I don't understand. I admit, I never used Twitter, but out of curiosity I created mastodon account yesterday and honestly I don't have any difficulty using it, it is very straight forward. Patent poster mentioned scaling issues, I don't observe any delays and apparently mastodon grew a lot yesterday.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by [deleted] »

brucethemoose2 wrote: post #87

Oh, wait, this feels like the start of a cyberpunk story. If TikTok gets banned, where to the users go? Instagram. Threads could replace Twitter. Reddit is going downhill... Maybe Meta could even buy it in a firesale? Outside of chat apps like Discord, Slack, Teams and Telegram (which compete with WhatsApp), Meta will have consolidated most of the world's social media under them. And that's assuming they dont buy out…

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Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by lynx23 »

mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

Hmm, corporate crystal-balling coupled with remnants of activism... In my book, twitter was never useful and always a waste of time for non-journalist, however, people are still using it :-)

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by mezobeli »

mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

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