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Post by leokennis »

whitepaint wrote: post #539
user_named wrote: post #293

Reminder that Elon didn't even intend to buy Twitter He wanted to sell ~$2.5 Billion Tesla stock at all-time highs without causing the stock price to significantly deflate, so he used the Twitter purchase suggestion as a cover. He did similar pump and dump schemes with crypto - like Dogecoin - but because Elon is fundamentally a dumb guy, he did the extraordinarily stupid thing of signing a purchase agreement with Tw…

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Ah yes. Inheriting and owning stuff makes you smart. Maybe even the smartest. One could argue it even makes you a “stable genius”!

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by lovvtide »

lovvtide wrote: post #544
TillE wrote: post #34

I'm increasingly concerned that Bluesky has missed its moment. It got a ton of hype when it started rolling out invites, but that died down pretty quickly. Now it's been a couple months and they're still not open. Events like this would be a perfect opportunity to grab users from Twitter. But they're not ready.

Don't forget about Nostr, which has seen an absolutely incredible amount of development over the last 6 months. Damus (ios) - https://apps.apple.com/us/app/damus/id1628663131 Amethyst (android) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vitorpampl... Satellite (web) - https://satellite.earth Primal (web) - https://primal.net Iris (web) - https://iris.to Snort (web) - https://snort.social Coracle (web) - http…

Snowden jumped on today https://satellite.earth/@Snowden@Nostr-Check.com

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by dahwolf »

TillE wrote: post #146
faefox wrote: post #85

It really feels like we're witnessing the end of an era. Elon is doggedly piloting Twitter into the ground and Reddit seems strangely compelled to follow his lead. Reddit may recover - I'm not so sure about Twitter. What technologies will take their place? In a time where it's never been easier to stand up your own website/forum/what have you, could we possibly see a gradual return to a pre-corporate Internet?

Instagram doing a fediverse thing is a big deal, and makes me really optimistic about the future of ActivityPub. We don't have it all figured out just yet, but I do think we're going to see a decentralized future of social media, which is pretty exciting.

The rest of the fediverse seems to disagree and is now in an obnoxious war to preblock Meta or not.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by whitepaint »

leokennis wrote: post #551
whitepaint wrote: post #539

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Ah yes. Inheriting and owning stuff makes you smart. Maybe even the smartest. One could argue it even makes you a “stable genius”!

I just absolutely love how he makes his haters' brains break.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by ALittleLight »

leokennis wrote: post #551
whitepaint wrote: post #539

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Ah yes. Inheriting and owning stuff makes you smart. Maybe even the smartest. One could argue it even makes you a “stable genius”!

Both of Musk's parents are still alive. Neither of them were involved in the electric car or rocket companies. It's fine to be a Musk critic - but you should restrict yourself to saying things that are actually true rather than making stuff up.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by version_five »

whitepaint wrote: post #539
user_named wrote: post #293

Reminder that Elon didn't even intend to buy Twitter He wanted to sell ~$2.5 Billion Tesla stock at all-time highs without causing the stock price to significantly deflate, so he used the Twitter purchase suggestion as a cover. He did similar pump and dump schemes with crypto - like Dogecoin - but because Elon is fundamentally a dumb guy, he did the extraordinarily stupid thing of signing a purchase agreement with Tw…

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I think it's fair to say he's done some stupid stuff, but obviously he's done more than enough smart stuff to make up for it. He's deserving of some criticism but a lot of HN seems to have turned it into more of an insane jealousy. I think that's the price of success and doubt he cares that some internet critic thinks they're smarter than him.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by tlogan »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #411
minimaxir wrote: post #322

Update from Elon: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1675214274627530754 > Rate limits increasing soon to 8000 for verified, 800 for unverified & 400 for new unverified lolwut. Quoting a post from Mastodon: https://mstdn.social/@maxkennerly/110640373859329500 > LOL this is not how you deal with "data scraping," this is how you deal with a catastrophic loss of system capacity. > You limit data scraping by blocking th…

> You limit data scraping by blocking things a human user couldn't do, like access a thousand posts a minute. This is aimed directly at reducing normal activity across the whole system. This isn't accurate at all. Standard operating procedure for large-scale scraping is to use a botnet, it's a sybil attack where you can have tens or even hundreds of thousands of IPs ticking away at 10 requests per minute or some such…

The solution is not simple but there is one (but it is complex). The question is are you going to spend time and money to implement the right solution or just pick up a cheaper one?

Could it be that they just stop paying bills for Akrose and they shut down their service?

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Post by dylan604 »

cavisne wrote: post #524
dylan604 wrote: post #429

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fine, I'll rephrase: social products. Remember Google+? You and 10 other people do. Most people's memory of Google+ was how to avoid it after it became a mandatory thing for all gmail users, and then it was just gone. So yeah, people really liked that product

Imo Google (basically by accident) owns the best place social network for the next decade - YouTube. Human generated content will become rare and more valuable, which is why the remaining non walled gardens (Reddit and Twitter) are quickly raising the drawbridge. Video will be the last medium to fall to AI generated content pretending to be human generated, and by cloning tiktok across to YouTube shorts they remove t…

> Imo Google (basically by accident) owns the best place social network for the next decade - YouTube.

That's pretty damn sad. Limiting discussion to some video link is just not very social to me. Facebook was the best overall to me until they fucked it up. As a concept, it is the most diverse in allowing users to be social with the various types of posts. Sure, you can do videos, images, text only, but also the events, direct messaging, and other features that i don't really remember because i haven't been there in 10 years.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by ajot »

faefox wrote: post #85

It really feels like we're witnessing the end of an era. Elon is doggedly piloting Twitter into the ground and Reddit seems strangely compelled to follow his lead. Reddit may recover - I'm not so sure about Twitter. What technologies will take their place? In a time where it's never been easier to stand up your own website/forum/what have you, could we possibly see a gradual return to a pre-corporate Internet?

I would love for an RSS reader/HN/Reddit thing to exist. You could get you personal news on one side, and subs/communities whith two columns, one for news from sources curated by the admins/mods of the sub, and other column for news, links and text posts submittes by the users.

You could only join by invitation, so as to make F2F social networks in self-hosted instances, or in a Discord-esque "server". I think the value here would be in exchanging opinions, information and new interests with an expanded social network (you woukd probably like and find interesting your friends' friends). Although I admit this model would be a closed community, if it's only one instance then it's not a problem because there are not a lot of people, and if it proves to be successful, it could span a renaissance of blogs or independent content-generation, i.e. these communities would be closed but reinforcing an open Web, instead of mega-silos with captive audience.

I think that a limit in size for each community would be essential, the first member/admin can invite, let's say, 80, people, each of those can invite 40 people, and the third "generation" just another 20 people. This way you get at most 64k people to interact with. There was a post here on HN a couple months [0] ago with a back of the envelope calulation of subreddits being hostile when reaching a 300k userbase.

[0] https://maximumeffort.substack.com/p/scaling-problems-in-soc...

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