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Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by e12e »

paulmd wrote: post #467
e12e wrote: post #454

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Licensing doesn't really enter into it. Being "a public good"/general publication does (a public figure can't automatically refuse to have a page on wp). That said things like the talk pages might fall under the GDPR - though one could argue that talk pages and edit history has a public value and so overrides the GDPR. As for logging IPs, that is something no one is generally allowed to do indefinitely - you need an…

Sure, but this is ignoring the pointed question I was posing here: everyone on Reddit knows they're contributing to a social body of knowledge of the same type (but a somewhat different form) as wikipedia. This isn't facebook storing your family vacation status updates and personal photos, this isn't a bigbox store maintaining an account so you can place orders... the overwhelming majority of content on reddit has al…

I'm not certain how the GDPR applies to these things (i don't think anyone are) - but the GDPR is enacted as law, and "but all my friends break the law" or "your law is stupid" or "it's easier for me to break the law than to comply" - aren't really legal arguments.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by Glench »

sebstefan wrote: post #97
josu wrote: post #50

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That is what this extension does: https://github.com/sr33/ares It hasn't been maintained in a while, but I can confirm that it still works. EDIT: Here is another alternative. I haven't used this one myself but it seems legit: https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite

ares isn't on the firefox store anymore and PowerDeleteSuite gets responses that are "success: false" 99% of the time because it doesn't fit the throttling they have very well so it leaves huge gaps of un-edited posts in your history Ares can be installed manually but the building process has a few holes, namely, you need to rollback your node version to 13.14.0 and it's not mentioned in the readme. You can use nvm t…

I made a replacement tool that just got approved in the Firefox addons store if you want to try it out: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bulk-delete-r...

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by motohagiography »

the-printer wrote: post #527
motohagiography wrote: post #522

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If someone resurrected your deleted texts and emails - deletion being the explicit expression of your non-consent to sharing, it would be difficult not to interpret it as an act of aggression. If they don't respect your consent, why should anyone respect theirs?

I hate to respond to your questions with more questions but the novelty of your's compels me to do so. Please do not take offense. How do you reconcile the differences between the private nature of communications like text/emails vis-à-vis comments on a public forum? > If they don't respect your consent, why should anyone respect theirs? I'm interpreting "they" as Reddit (or any large media corp.), would I be wrong t…

Consent. You either respect it or not. If you believe you don't need someones consent and they believe you do, you have a pretty serious conflict in front of you.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by hunter2_ »

zoky wrote: post #537
hunter2_ wrote: post #195

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I think you meant to say "substituting stupidity" -- the new thing is the substitute for the old thing.

Hanlon’s Razor states: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." I’m saying Reddit is incompetent in this case, rather than stupid. Not quite sure what you’re getting at?

Oh, my mistake. For some reason I thought it stated incompetence.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by xwdv »

buildbot wrote: post #543
xwdv wrote: post #526

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You must mail in copies of two forms of identification proving EU and California citizenship.

That’s probably not complaint with GDPR…

Can’t just claim you’re a citizen of the EU. Need to prove it.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

Paul-Craft wrote: post #546
AnimalMuppet wrote: post #525

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You do it before someone has replied to it. Once someone has replied, you can't delete your comment without destroying the context of their comment. It's not just about you at that point.

We'll see about that the minute someone makes a GDPR request to delete their stuff.

Does HN have to care about a GDPR request? HN doesn't have either servers or people in Europe, so far as I know.

Even so, that still may not save you. Say you decide you want your post here deleted. Say HN does so, but leaves my reply. And say my reply looks like this:

> We'll see about that the minute someone makes a GDPR request to delete their stuff.

Well, Paul-Craft, I don't think it's going to work like that...

[End of pretend reply.]

Now your post is quoted by mine, and your name is mentioned in mine as the author. Now you cannot delete all traces of your post without editing mine.

Now what?

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by Meph504 »

jbverschoor wrote: post #504
buro9 wrote: post #10

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This is definitely unwise. I run forums and have done for +20y. Reddit may have a user agreement that allows them to use the data forever, but historical versions that were not visible (effectively soft-deleted on edit) puts this into a risk area as it removes the ability for someone to control the data thus transferring ownership far more explicitly to Reddit. Reddit should be very cautious here... you only get a lo…

GDPR request to request your data and then one to delete all data about you. If they don’t comply, they’ll get fined, and I have the feeling it will not be a small one given how they handle things

I think Reddit, like most U.S. web based companies aren't overly concerned with GDPR in many situations, and they are focused on what looks best for their IPO.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by buildbot »

xwdv wrote: post #555
buildbot wrote: post #543

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That’s probably not complaint with GDPR…

Can’t just claim you’re a citizen of the EU. Need to prove it.

This is factually incorrect. https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/32836/do-i-have-to-p...

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by xwdv »

buildbot wrote: post #558
xwdv wrote: post #555

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Can’t just claim you’re a citizen of the EU. Need to prove it.

This is factually incorrect. https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/32836/do-i-have-to-p...

It says in the answer right there, the company must either be in the EU or you are in the EU.

Unfortunately, to protect user privacy we don’t know or store your IP address so you will have to provide some other proof that you are actually in the EU. An IP of course is also easily doubted, you need to provide legal documentation.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post by zoky »

hunter2_ wrote: post #554
zoky wrote: post #537

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Hanlon’s Razor states: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." I’m saying Reddit is incompetent in this case, rather than stupid. Not quite sure what you’re getting at?

Oh, my mistake. For some reason I thought it stated incompetence.

No worries; I assumed you weren’t being malicious.
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