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Tesla Model Y overtakes Corolla to be world’s best-selling car in 2023

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Re: Tesla Model Y overtakes Corolla to be world’s best-selling car in 2023

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EV6 has V2L while Model Y has no V2L... (V2L = Vehicle-to-Load = connect any electric appliance to your car with standard 110V/230V socket...)

For all those times I'm sitting out in the driveway and want to plug in a refrigerator? I honestly cannot figure out what to do with that feature.

Exactly that. When the power goes out you use an extension cord between your car and the refrigerator in the summer or the car and the furnace fan in the winter.

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I've also driven my Nissan Leaf since 2013 with zero shop visits outside of tire shops. Wah. That is crazy. The total cost of ownership for that car must be incredibly low. Think about what that means for the future of all auto mechanics. Will there be far fewer? Anecdote about a Nissan Leaf: I'll never forget being on holiday in Sri Lanka, walking through a tiny, countryside village. I was on my way to see a Buddhis…

> I guess she is still driving it today! Why do some people refer to cars with female gender?

Could be a lot of reasons, likely came from naming ships though

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worlds best selling car. Remember that the Tesla buying process is known as the "car buying process" since forever, outside the US, at least in the kind of countries where people buy expensive cars.

I don't understand what you wrote. Are you saying that outside the US, every manufacturer offers low-friction online sales, with no need to visit a dealer? Because I don't think that's entirely true...

My understanding is that outside the US there's not the whole dealership model with it's associated markup as we have here in the US. You still have dealers but buying a car is just picking off a menu of options, pay the same price at every dealership and wait a few weeks for your car.

I got a 2015 Volvo with their "European Pickup" option and even though you went through a US based dealership that was how it worked. Also they didn't "package" options. You didn't need to get some "Cold Weather Package" to just get heated seats for example every option was ala-carte at a fixed price.

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For all those times I'm sitting out in the driveway and want to plug in a refrigerator? I honestly cannot figure out what to do with that feature.

Exactly that. When the power goes out you use an extension cord between your car and the refrigerator in the summer or the car and the furnace fan in the winter.

Ah. I'm lucky to live somewhere where that's not really an issue (in 15 years living here we've had a total of 40 minutes of power outages, according to my UPS logs), so I forget that IS an issue for a lot of people.

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Electric cars don't need a front grill — there's no radiator. Putting a big grill on an electric car is as stupid as putting a fake horse head on a horseless carriage. (and I quite like the look of the Tesla 3 front end.)

Batteries do need temperature control.

Sure, but electric cars are 90% efficient, and ICE only 40%. An ICE car is emitting roughly 6 times as much waste heat. BEVs do not need a big-arse radiator and grill.

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One thing that EV's have an advantage of is the reduced footprint of their drivetrain. The primary bulk of an EV is the massive battery that usually spans the bottom of the car opening up space in the interior or the ubiquitous EV "frunk" this makes for a more spacious interior and the Y takes advantage of this well. That being said it seems that 2023 is the year of the EV, my family is currently in the market for a…

In the market for a car here in Canada. Really loved the idea of an electric car / plug in hybrid but it feels like EVs are just not adequately designed for Canada. The main issues are (A) not enough charging infrastructure (fixable) and (B) poor battery performance in cold weather. I think the cold weather thing could be fixable but from my perspective it seems like EVs are designed with California in mind so there…

We went for a Model Y. The heat pump is way more efficient in the winter than resistive heating. Combine that with starting out at room temperature because it's garaged, and we see little winter range loss.

We never have charging issues, and we've gone to rural Saskatchewan, tourist Quebec and all parts in between. The trans-Canada has great supercharger coverage, rural Saskatchewan has welders you can unplug and tourist Quebec has chargers at the hotels.

I bet our battery lasts longer than yours. 99% of driving is local, we plug in at 50% and charge to 80%, which is a lot easier on a big battery like ours than the small battery you have. Even on road trips it basically stays between 20 and 80.

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A hybrid car is a very complicated machine - more so than an EV, a turbo petrol or a diesel.

Turbos aren't very simple. The 'toyota synergy' style hybrid transaxle is a whole lot less complicated than most transaxles too. ICE cars already had an electric starter motor, so it's just adding a second electric motor and some batteries and a charging circuit. The benefits are clear. Immense range, lower fuel consumption, longer maintenance intervals vs an ICE only, etc.

turbos are cheap and reliable, its very rare to see blown turbos on maintained non-modified cars with the exception of BMW putting them in the valley of the V8 engine and other idiotic designs.

Most turbo failures are from not doing oil changes on time or crappy modified ECU tunes.

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I've heard some auto analysts suggesting that Tesla's trick to drop their car prices was not necessarily an act of desperation, as much as an action of opportunity. While all other car manufacturers are upping prices and increasing lead times, Tesla is taking advantage of this by having vehicles available and lowering prices in order to gain market-share in a time when other manufacturers are expecting and preparing…

When my Kia went tits up I called every dealer I could (except Tesla) to try to get a car immediately. They all had months-long lead times. Tesla? I downloaded the app and bought the car as an in app purchase; 7 days later I picked up the car from the lot & left. If I'd been willing to settle for a white 7-seater, I'd've been able to pick it up same day.

What's the point of being a car dealer if you can't sell me a car!?

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Is Toyota BYD’s JV partner in China? I think the BYD taxi I rode in was based off a Camry body, but it seems their JV partner is GAC, so it isn’t clear how that came to be.

Plenty of China-only car models are more than "inspired" from existing vehicle models.

No, a lot of them are made with tooling and designs directly used to make the models they are based on. This is all over the table and part of the JV deal, though I think these days it doesn’t happen as much as 10 years ago.

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The minimalist cabin is the obvious one: it's more spacious and feels much more spacious thanks to the glass roof. I did have severe doubts about the touchscreen and lack of controls, but in practice this has been a non-issue, there are tactile controls for everything you need to actually drive and voice controls for everything you don't (climate, music, etc). The glove box is just stupid though.

You do realize this has nothing to do with it being built from the start as an electric vehicle right? And as far as I know, the polestar is designed as an EV too.

The polestar 2 is built off of an ICE platform.

The first polestar built off of a dedicated EV platform will be the polestar 3.

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