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The thing is, most people outside the "larger ethnic group" in the US couldn't care less about their data being funneled to the CCP. The anti china/russia/ seems to really be a WASP centric pathological obsession. Just my 2c
National security is not a uniquely "wasp" concern, which you would know if you were ever in the military. What an incredibly ignorant and racist thing to suggest.
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As 'evil' as FB is for example form my EU perspective.
So? We should allow one and not the other? What about this false equivalency between China and the US? Even in a worse case scenario, data being taken by US intelligence is given SOME form of oversight. If you believe the US and China are similarly free, I invite you to tell me if you feel like you’re as free in New York City and San Francisco as Shanghai or Shenzen. If you don’t think living in those two locations i…
You’re right that there isn’t an equivalence though, the US is far worse.
Installed the app last night. It would be interesting to see their DAU graph for the state! Something worthwhile noting here is that the usual "politicians don't understand the technology" sentiment doesn't apply here because our governor at least knows how to code Perl, and ran a software company.
> our governor at least knows how to code Perl Interesting! The more Perl people we can get into government[0] the better, for sure 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audrey_Tang
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> so instant kill for that demographic(iphone is status symbol and most people have it so they'll not switch to android) I'd wager that if TikTok got banned in the US and Apple did not immediately follow with allowing sideloading, iPhone would quickly lose its status value in the teenage demographics. After all, status matters most when comparing equivalent goods - it's what justifies spending more for the same thing…
Ir they'd move to Instagram Reels / YouTube Shorts, which are equal products except for the user base. Bluesky is cool now because it's a gated community of privileged connected people, not because it's inherently better than Twitter.
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Doubt it... I seriously doubt even 1% of android users has even heard of FDroid or knows that Amazon has it's own android market you can load on your phone. That will really limit network effect overall.
You may doubt it, but installing VPNs and getting software from alternate sources is a basic life skill in a country like Iran where the government tries hard to control what people see online. The old and young alike are doing this.
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You may doubt it, but installing VPNs and getting software from alternate sources is a basic life skill in a country like Iran where the government tries hard to control what people see online. The old and young alike are doing this.
The article is about banning TikTok in USA.
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The article is about banning TikTok in USA.
So you think Americans are less capable of learning such things if given a motivation?
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If you don't like the fact that businesses can be regulated, then there is a whole bunch of other laws you are going to have to object to first. For example, very recently there was a ruling that allowed California to have food regulations for pork sold to its residents. Do you think that this food regulation is some sort of huge infringement on citizen rights? Because it isn't much different than other regulations t…
I don't mind regulation when it serves a useful purpose, but 1) this one does not, and 2) pretending that it doesn't affect individuals because it only directly targets companies is misleading. If you genuinely believe that TikTok should not be available to anyone, then argue that openly.
Well, it does if you think that TikTok is a national security threat.
> If you genuinely believe that TikTok should not be available to anyone
This statement of yours just means that you can't argue against the actual point, and instead have to make up a new one to attack, instead of the actual stated position.
The actual stated position is that we put regulations on businesses all the time.
And it is better to do that, than enforcement on individuals.
The reasons why it is better to do completely standard, and normal business regulations, is because if enforcement was on individuals instead, it would have to involve draconian things like checking everyone's phones all the time.
Nah. There is no need to do that. App store regulations are perfectly fine instead, and there is no need to defend some absurd position, that nobody is arguing, like that everyone's phones should be investigated by the government.
And this is no different than when California puts laws on pork businesses.
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I saw a BBC story the other week bemoaning how state college students were circumventing firewalls of foreign media using VPNs.. the irony seemed to be lost on them.
could you link to the story?
I live in a country where such a ban on certain "enemy" social networks was implemented a few years ago. What will happen is this. Teens will download a shit ton of VPN applications, the vast majority of which are specifically produced and marketed by the enemy to circumvent said ban. Then all users' phone traffic gets routed via the enemy VPN instead of just the social app's requests. Win-win for both sides: - the g…
quite different though. The ban in china is a full Qing-dynasty-style suppression of free speech and the organizing of large-scale protest. The ban here is due to concerns about data privacy because the users are not tech-savvy enough to consider that. I don't think the later will force the users to resort to a progressive solution like vpn.
I think that censorship in China is a whole different and quite unrelated story.