I commented below but the IT consulting LLC in the bio is inactive (both in the division of corp website and online). Is that the only evidence here for the statement above?
Arrest made in SF killing of Bob Lee – alleged killer also worked in tech
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#552When I moved to SF in 1996, the murder count that year was 86. Last year it was 56. I haven't been back in a very long time, but I guarantee you it's a far safer city than it was back then. I lived on Market between 6th and 7th and had knives pulled on me, and watched a car get blown up across the street underneath Hollywood Billiards, which is long gone now - according to Google Maps, they're building new apartments…
The people who "gave the poorest folks nowhere to go" were the ones who voted to prohibit the construction of anything but single-family houses[2] in 76% of the city[3].
[1] https://www.sfdph.org/dph/files/MCHdocs/Epi/Birth-Data-Summa...
[2] https://sbuss.substack.com/p/when-did-things-go-wrong-in-san....
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#553As the news media and twitterverse peddled the whole "crime-ridden SF" angle, I felt myself getting drawn into the same topic and agreeing with numerous friends on how much the city has declined. This is a good reminder of how we gravitate towards powerful emotional narratives, which in the moment can feel absolutely true despite an utter lack of supporting facts on an individual murder case. I hope this brings some…
I don’t understand why it can’t be both: SF is degenerating when it comes to random crime AND this murder wasn’t by some random thug. I remember reading blog after blog on HN about people moving out of SF specifically for what the city had become.
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#554Am I the only one who does NOT feel unsafe in SF at all ? I mean, I choose not to walk in TL and SOMA at night. But why would anyone feel unsafe in North Beach, Marina, Russian Hill, Richmond, Sunset, GG park, Lower Haight, Valencia etc. I have spent many nights walking in Valencia and took Uber home at 2am. Doesn't feel remotely unsafe.
I imagine SF feels probably fine coming from another American city. But if you moved here from Seoul, it would be terrifying
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#555Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand this mentality. https://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Uni... there is no reason that SF has to be a lot less safe than Zurich. Zurich is not populated by aliens, people live in both places It's political choices that make it the way it is.
For the past hundred years or so, a lot of people moved to SF because it was nothing like Zurich. It’s not reasonable even for the nouveaux riches of tech to expect to flip a city’s character in a decade.
I also didn't say anything about flipping a city's character in a decade. Whether it takes 1 decade, 2, 3 or 4 -- there is no reason to accept the idea that city just has to be unsafe and nothing can be done about it
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#557Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is great writing, "the abrupt closure of the mid-market Whole Foods, leaving San Franciscans just eight other Whole Foods within city limits". What a scoop, brilliantly delivered.
Sure, it's a cute jab, but 8 WFs in an entire city is not that many. Even if you have a car, there are large swaths of the city (Richmond, Sunset), where a WF is a bit of a slog during regular traffic (and worse during rush hour). And of course, many city dwellers don't have cars, so having to lug groceries up SF's famously hilly streets is not great for more than a fraction of a mile or so.
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#558Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is great writing, "the abrupt closure of the mid-market Whole Foods, leaving San Franciscans just eight other Whole Foods within city limits". What a scoop, brilliantly delivered.
Sure, it's a cute jab, but 8 WFs in an entire city is not that many. Even if you have a car, there are large swaths of the city (Richmond, Sunset), where a WF is a bit of a slog during regular traffic (and worse during rush hour). And of course, many city dwellers don't have cars, so having to lug groceries up SF's famously hilly streets is not great for more than a fraction of a mile or so.
Austin TX has 964K, is where Whole Foods was founded, and has 5 according to the locator on their website.
Los Angeles has almost 4M people and has 7. (As well as ones in various other cities that are intertwined with the weird geographic footprint, but also 4 times as many people in the "official" city limits for those 7.)
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#559When I moved to SF in 1996, the murder count that year was 86. Last year it was 56. I haven't been back in a very long time, but I guarantee you it's a far safer city than it was back then. I lived on Market between 6th and 7th and had knives pulled on me, and watched a car get blown up across the street underneath Hollywood Billiards, which is long gone now - according to Google Maps, they're building new apartments…
I don't understand this mentality. https://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Uni... there is no reason that SF has to be a lot less safe than Zurich. Zurich is not populated by aliens, people live in both places It's political choices that make it the way it is.
Lack of Nazi gold to prop up a social net, which can later be defended tooth and nail with strong anti immigration policies while newer streams of illegal money such as mexican cartels are adquiered.
Maybe SF does not want money laundering for some of the worst people on the planet, to be its identity. But hey I guess the rolex watches and chocolate are pretty good.
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#560> The alleged killer also works in tech and is a man Lee purportedly knew. I commented below but the IT consulting LLC in the bio is inactive (both in the division of corp website and online). Is that the only evidence here for the statement above?
Rather, Lee and Momeni were portrayed by police as being familiar with one another. In the wee hours of April 4, they were purportedly driving together through downtown San Francisco in a car registered to the suspect.