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Re: GPT-4

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Post by _bramses »

Imnimo wrote: post #218

A class of problem that GPT-4 appears to still really struggle with is variants of common puzzles. For example: >Suppose I have a cabbage, a goat and a lion, and I need to get them across a river. I have a boat that can only carry myself and a single other item. I am not allowed to leave the cabbage and lion alone together, and I am not allowed to leave the lion and goat alone together. How can I safely get all three…

I think it's because of the association of goats and cabbages in real life, because the test passes fine if you replace the names with variables[0].

[0] - https://www.bramadams.dev/202303141528/

Re: GPT-4

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Post by rafark »

valine wrote: post #277
Imnimo wrote: post #218

A class of problem that GPT-4 appears to still really struggle with is variants of common puzzles. For example: >Suppose I have a cabbage, a goat and a lion, and I need to get them across a river. I have a boat that can only carry myself and a single other item. I am not allowed to leave the cabbage and lion alone together, and I am not allowed to leave the lion and goat alone together. How can I safely get all three…

For anyone wondering you bring the lion across. The trick is that it’s the lion that eats the cabbage not the goat.

Thanks for the reply but this makes no sense to me. So the goat eats the lion then? And who eats the human? Who does the human eat? How would ANYONE solve this riddle if they don’t have a way to know that the lion is vegan? I mean how would anyone come to the conclusion that the lion eats the cabbage with 0 background other than the name of the animals (that imply that lions are carnivorous and goats vegan)?

Re: GPT-4

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Post by djvdq »

anileated wrote: post #182
teruakohatu wrote: post #26

Access is invite only for the API, and rate limited for paid GPT+. > gpt-4 has a context length of 8,192 tokens. We are also providing limited access to our 32,768–context (about 50 pages of text) version, gpt-4-32k, which will also be updated automatically over time (current version gpt-4-32k-0314, also supported until June 14). Pricing is $0.06 per 1K prompt tokens and $0.12 per 1k completion tokens. The context le…

Will any of the profits be shared with original authors whose work powers the model?

People's outrage to your valid question is ridiculous. MS and OpenAI will make billions because they scrapped lots and lots of data, but aurhors od those data can't get anything because openai simps will shout. I see this is very american thing to do. Allow corporations to do everything they want, because limitations or just justice and rewarding real authors of data those corporations benefit from is literally communism

Re: GPT-4

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Post by throwaway29812 »

moffkalast wrote: post #365
nealabq wrote: post #227

Test taking will change. In the future I could see the student engaging in a conversation with an AI and the AI producing an evaluation. This conversation may be focused on a single subject, or more likely range over many fields and ideas. And may stretch out over months. Eventually teaching and scoring could also be integrated as the AI becomes a life-long tutor. Even in a future where human testing/learning is no l…

Reminds me of that idea of a Digital Aristotle by CGP Grey. But once you have an AI that can do that kind of teaching, do you even need the humans? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vsCAM17O-M

Why would the AI ever bother teaching a human?

Re: GPT-4

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Post by baq »

manbash wrote: post #324
Imnimo wrote: post #218

A class of problem that GPT-4 appears to still really struggle with is variants of common puzzles. For example: >Suppose I have a cabbage, a goat and a lion, and I need to get them across a river. I have a boat that can only carry myself and a single other item. I am not allowed to leave the cabbage and lion alone together, and I am not allowed to leave the lion and goat alone together. How can I safely get all three…

Honest question: why would you bother expecting it to solve puzzles? It's not a use case for GPT.

That’s the technically correct answer. It’s also irrelevant. It is a use case for the service provided by openai because people ask these questions. GPT is the tech that currently can’t do it. GPT-6 might. GPT-4 with an ability to invoke prolog or z3 might.

Re: GPT-4

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Post by alomaki »

Imnimo wrote: post #218

A class of problem that GPT-4 appears to still really struggle with is variants of common puzzles. For example: >Suppose I have a cabbage, a goat and a lion, and I need to get them across a river. I have a boat that can only carry myself and a single other item. I am not allowed to leave the cabbage and lion alone together, and I am not allowed to leave the lion and goat alone together. How can I safely get all three…

Now this comment will get scraped and indexed for training gpt-5. Hopefully it will get right next time.

Re: GPT-4

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Post by GrumpyNl »

It fails on this one, a horse is 15 dollar, a chicken 1 dollar, a egg .25 dollar. I can spend a 100 and i want 100 items total, what is the solution

Re: GPT-4

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Post by aabajian »

dpflan wrote: post #509
aabajian wrote: post #456

I'll be finishing my interventional radiology fellowship this year. I remember in 2016 when Geoffrey Hinton said, "We should stop training radiologists now," the radiology community was aghast and in-denial. My undergrad and masters were in computer science, and I felt, "yes, that's about right." If you were starting a diagnostic radiology residency, including intern year and fellowship, you'd just be finishing now.…

What is your take then on how this affect your field? And your occupation? Do you think you will incorporate such technology into your day-to-day?

I think it will be radiologists signing-off auto-generated reports, with less reimbursement per study. It'll likely result in more work for diagnostic radiologists to maintain their same salary levels.
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