Live data from Hacker News

US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

apnews.com

551–560 of 864 posts

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

#551

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More than 500 Americans and more than 2000 Japanese died fighting in the Aleutian islands during WW2. https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/battle-of-attu-60-years.htm

It probably meant the continental USA.

Yes, probably that because Alaska and Hawaii were not admitted as states until 1959. Otherwise there would be Pearl Harbor counts as well.

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

#552
post #435

I like how the measurement unit seems to be either small cars or school busses.

Americans will measure with anything except the metric system.

Funny story: I was in Spain several years ago and was talking to a guy I met about sailboats. I mentioned I had a boat, and he asked how big. I thought for a second and said "7 meters" so as not to be an ignorant American. He thought for a second and said "huh, 21 feet".

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

#553

It doesn't matter what the object was, it's that America's adversaries know they can do it without consequences, and what makes them believe this is what matters about this story. That is the irreversible change it signifies, imo.

Sounds like you think someone sent a trial balloon

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

#554

Is there a reason F-22s are being used to take these balloons down? Is it to take advantage of a training opportunity? I would think less advanced aircraft may be more cost effective to operate.

Two kills in two weeks? What an amazing 334 million USD aircraft. We should have more!

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

#555

I feel sorry for the pool soul who decided to send up their DIY weather balloon with gopro to get that space shot. Who knows he might even have a video of a F-22 sending a missile over.

That’s funny, because this was my exact thought. How can they distinguish the difference when they say ‘unknown’ object…

They flew a F35 next to the object. "Unknown" is an overloaded term and it isn't binary (known vs unknown). Plus, they said it was the size of a small car (remember the other balloon's payload was the size of a bus). So while you don't know what exactly that payload is and is doing, you do know it isn't just a go pro. You also know it isn't a velociraptor or Felix Baumgartner.

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

#556

We need a cheaper way to down these spy balloons. The sidewinder missile + F-22 flight time costs are an order of magnitude greater than the total cost of launching one balloon. Send over the High Energy Laser with Integrated Optical-dazzler (HELIOS) to protect the west coast.

Then it's a good thing the US spends an order of magnitude more on weapons than anyone else.

The world will run out of helium before the US runs out of missiles.

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

#557

I feel sorry for the pool soul who decided to send up their DIY weather balloon with gopro to get that space shot. Who knows he might even have a video of a F-22 sending a missile over.

If you're actually responsible you get appropriate approval for time and place for balloon launches. It's not hard and not doing so can get you just enormous fines.

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

#558

Is there a reason F-22s are being used to take these balloons down? Is it to take advantage of a training opportunity? I would think less advanced aircraft may be more cost effective to operate.

Two kills in two weeks? What an amazing 334 million USD aircraft. We should have more!

Consider that having already spent the money, they’d be paying for training flights anyway. You’re only hearing about this because they used a live missile.

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

#559
post #59

So what’s the deal with these balloons? Provocation? Do they think nobody will notice?

It could be to gradually increase reaction expectations so it would not be surprising if China shot down one of the USA's drones. Or perhaps escalate by using their previously demonstrated ability to blow up satellites. The balloon was a very public microaggression that forced the USA to respond in a very public way. China tried the public "oops it was a weather balloon" to give the USA a chance to back off the publi…

few oil tankers which go to China attacked by unidentified drones will shut them up for very long time.

Re: US jet shoots down unknown object flying off Alaska coast

#560

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also maybe gives China cover/justification to start shooting down these low satellites.

No. Shooting down satellites is a very different thing.

China hasn’t indicated it cares a great deal about international law.

(One could make the same argument for the U.S., but that’s not the open question at the moment.)

Post reply on HN