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Rather misanthropy?
Misandry - from andro, meaning man (male) Misanthropy - from anthropos, meaning human
Indeed, claim is that op hates the idea of population growth, rather than a specific gender.
The teen mental illness epidemic began around 2012
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Those browsing HN still have sprint deadlines. Browsing HN creates more stress. Or keep online 24 hours or spend the night mentally trying to solve an abstract issue. At 5pm they are done. Different stresses / pressures. How many are learning a new language in their freetime just to keep employed. How many people create side projects to land employment at a coffee shop? To compare employment how many coffee shops tes…
How many developers clock out then go to the second job they need to make rent?
Many developers work two jobs. Many jobs prevent employees from doing this. Many employees work on free open source. Many companies try to prevent or control this. Some do it for rent, child payments, mortgage or car payments.
I made minimum wage at my first job. Didn't cross the poverty line until my 3rd or 4th job years later. Things might be different now, I started after the .com crash.
Re: The teen mental illness epidemic began around 2012
#553My daughter hit her teens in2012. It was a horrible couple of years not just for her but from about 8th grade up. Our HS had a suicide wave. Many attepts (my daughter being one) and quite a few of those attempts were successful later. Thankfully my child responded well to therapy. This was in a high competitive HS IN NORTHERN VA. My thoughts on factors: Crazy parents pushing kids to try and get in TJ who had no busin…
What is 'TJ'?
I checked with some of my friends who had parents that lived in the Eastern Bloc, but couldn't find out anything.
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> I benefited more from the occasional swift kick in the backside and being told to "man up" Practically you are saying that pedagogy and psychology are wrong and harmful on a fundamental level. Either you are in denial or a whole field of science is wrong.
Are you suggesting that people should ignore their personal experiences if they do not align with what the science tells them? Why would you declare that anyone is in denial about their own reality?
Yes, that's exactly why personal experience aka "n=1" is not considered acceptable evidence.
Not to mention the huge bias involved when someone claims "bad thing happened to me and look I'm perfectly ok".
Re: The teen mental illness epidemic began around 2012
#555Let us note that the sharp uptick in Haidt's graphs occurred the year that the DSM-5 was released, 2013, which had several major changes around depressive and anxiety disorders and removed multi-axial assessment. I was disappointed to not see any mention of this.
I find Dr. Gabor Maté's work much more interesting in explaining the decrease of mental health in society and understanding where that comes from.
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> break under this kind of pressure They aren't being drafted to go fight in Vietnam. The Russians aren't bombing our cities. The main health problem is eating too much food, not too little. Teens aren't even expected to have jobs anymore. (In my day, teens got jobs at 16.) My dad volunteered in WW2. He expected to die in combat, as his cohort had an 80% casualty rate. 4 out of 5. Every mission meant holes in the air…
My grandfather survived Pearl Harbor and became a B-25 pilot in one of those cohorts with an 80%+ casualty rate. As a kid, I enjoyed reading and hearing about his experiences. It made me proud of his service. But I'm not sure it lessened the stresses and anxieties I felt during my own adolescence. Years later when a close family member had a near death/should have died experience, that meaningfully altered my perspec…
You discovered that suffering is relative to experience.
Re: The teen mental illness epidemic began around 2012
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Lol have you ever been to a farm? Farmers go to social events, visit friends, etc just like anyone else. Most of them laughed at lockdown rules and kept living their lives just as before.
Which is why a million Americans died and tens of millions have long term neurological, lung or other organ damage from the disease.
Lockdowns or not, nobody could've avoided getting covid in the long term. It's just too contagious. The only way out is letting it run through the population and mutate. Flattening the curve might alleviate strain on the medical system but it also prolongs the time to benign mutations.
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#559If you're interested in learning more about Jon Haidt's work - Tim Ferriss and Malcolm Gladwell both have great interviews with him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elo89pPREYE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGTS9vZFV2o
I watched both interviews. Thanks for sharing.
Re: The teen mental illness epidemic began around 2012
#560While I don't doubt that social media can drive some of these mental health issues, I think most teenagers are simply stressed from the constant work that's necessary for the college admissions process. I'm 24, so I would have been a teenager in 2012, but I didn't have a smartphone until I was 16 or so. My high school experience consisted almost entirely of school, studying, and running (my primary extracurricular).…
I think it dependson one's personality type.
All those things didn't affect me because I didn't care about any of it. I made barely enough grades to barely squeeze into university. I just didn't care, not too much.
I would think that college admissions is too narrow of a reason as to why. Only about 35% of high school graduates go on to university. I'm sure a significant number of university attendees don't have these issues to the extent that they have to go to a therapist. It's great that you went, wonderful that you did, but I am not convinced that anywhere near the majority of university students had that much pressure - to the extent of having their life break down.
I do agree that everyone needs a healthier lifestyle.