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Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

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Hm... does that mean she gets away scot-free? Not sure that's fair, she seems very complicit.

I haven’t seen any evidence Alameda itself committed any crime, only that they were terrible traders and lost many billions on margin through FTX, who gave them special treatment for collateral. SBF then tried to bail them out with FTX customer funds since he owned both. I think Ellison will get off scot free since she only controlled Alameda, and not entirely. Her crimes are probably minor and worth forgiving for he…

> I haven’t seen any evidence Alameda itself committed any crime

Well if you look at what the mainstream media are saying, the very same mainstream media who were presenting SBF as the second coming of the Christ on their front cover, you're not looking very much.

For a start it's proven that some people who wanted to send hefty sum of money to FTX had to wire it to Alameda to dodge controls. That's wire fraud.

Then it's clear that Alameda manipulated the market and were the ones behind the pump and dumping of several shitcoins. Including several shitcoins of SBF's creation.

But really... People who actually called SBF for the ponzi boy and FTX and Alameda for the complete ponzis they were, months or even years before they failed, have lots of evidence that Alameda was part of a bigger criminal operation, before FTX even existed.

If you really believe it's a coincidence the top lawyers at FTX and Bitfinex happened to be colleague at a company caught in an online poker cheating scandal I've got a bridge to sell you.

From the very start even just the naming of Alameda as "Alameda Research" was part of the con (SBF says on video he added "research" to dodge banking restrictions more easily).

The goal of Alameda Research was, from day one, to engage in criminal activities.

This entire "leveraged trade gone wrong" is lies, lies and more lies, relayed by certain media (once again: the same who were presenting SBF as an altruistic genius that was going to save the world).

Now maybe that Alameda also fucked up trades but I'm pretty sure that a lot of the missing billions mysteriously ended up at the hands of those behind the iFined/tether/Bitfinex/Deltec cartel.

Funnily enough this may make tether a bit more backed now.

One of the latest development btw is that one of the shareholder of Bitfinex is a now convicted money launderer (China just arrested sixty people in relation with chinese mafia money laundering through stashes of cash that found their way to Hong Kong and then were exchanged for USDT: $1.7 bn at least).

FTX / Alameda are one and the same and it's highly likely they were just a front for tether, with SBF as the useful idiot.

Some are going to say: "there's no evidence" but this entire thing stinks.

And nobody will convince me that Alameda didn't commit any crime.

Alameda, just like Moonstone bank (bought by SBF from Deltec) and the tens if not hundreds of companies SBF had, were part of a criminal operation.

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

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This is good for Crypto. Seriously. Because SBF is probably going to help the US make their case against Binance and that will flush out all the bad actors. Many coins will go to zero. The entire ecosystem will wither and die, but if Crypto survives it will be because there is some fundamental value to it besides digital beanie babies.

If you flush out all the bad actors there is really nothing left. It will survive because there are enough bad actors to last forever.

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

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So am I to assume you have read the entire source code of any cryptocurrency you put money in to prove to yourself there is no "backdoor"? And you argue every user of cryptocurrency should do the same? i.e. "don't put money in X if you have not read and verified the source code of X and committed to reading every code for every future update of X, and also verified that the nodes you are talking to are running the sa…

Never argued blockchains should fully replace traditional finance. Banks are extremely valuable to me and probably always will be. Blockchains have certain properties which make them extremely desirable in a specific set of use-cases. That set was greatly exaggerated by ignorance and insanity in the bull market. Still, the true set is nonzero. Stop being an ideologue. It spreads ignorance.

You did not answer my earlier question, only latched on to a throwaway line at the end. Do you verify code of everything on a Blockchain you interact with, and maintain that everyone who interacts with the Blockchain should verify these "mathematical properties" themselves?

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Yeah but that was a very shitty prediction. It appears the charges filed were by SDNY which if anything is known for being anti-Trump. Essentially a bunch of democrat appointed attorneys arrested him.

Not surprising, I’m sure they want to run the investigation to ensure they can run damage control and keep the most implicating evidence out of the public eye.

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

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Are you dense? Do you know how money works? Do you know capitalization methods modern banking has been using for nearly 2500 years?

Modern banking is not 2500 years old...more like 500 years old.

You'd be surprised. Lots of evidence and some writings on banks in the Babylonian times, with similar concepts dating back well over 2500 years. Obviously much has changed. Oddly, SBF seems to have perpetuated an early form of fraud, "confidence men"

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

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Much sooner than I expected. Figured it'd be a couple of years before the AG was secure enough in their case to bring charges. This is MUCH faster than Madoff or Holmes. Then again, he's been much more out in the open about everything. He pretty much laid the prosecution's case out to the public for them.

It was fast because https://www.youtube.com/@Coffeezilla already cross-examined and rested his case to the public, see https://youtu.be/4o_jPzBZSIo

I no nothing about law, but I can imagine the pressure on Southern District to act after the cast was outlayed so well in social media.

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I haven’t seen any evidence Alameda itself committed any crime, only that they were terrible traders and lost many billions on margin through FTX, who gave them special treatment for collateral. SBF then tried to bail them out with FTX customer funds since he owned both. I think Ellison will get off scot free since she only controlled Alameda, and not entirely. Her crimes are probably minor and worth forgiving for he…

I think you grossly underestimate the amount of regulation Caroline is subject to. At the very least she will be deemed unfit or proper, which means she will be barred from any financial activity for the years to come. On top of that, as a MOO & RO she will be professionally and personally liable to millions in fines, and most likely jail time. Negligence _is_ a crime, a lack of means _is_ a crime, a lack of knowledg…

What’s MOO & RO?

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

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I remember a lot of people strongly believed that SBF would never get in trouble because he was a Democratic donor, and that this was all part of some vast corruption scandal. It turns out not everything is a conspiracy.

"SBF was a major Dem donor, so no investigation" https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1591822387267665921

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Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

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It’s probably another case of Hanlon’s razor, “don’t attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”.

I think that's the impression intended to be given in the hopes of having a chance to fight the case.

Agreed, to me even a term like "negligence" seems to lean too far into accepting it all as mere "mistakes". They way he talks about it in interviews, he makes it sound like he was a child operating a handgun, and while he doesn't remember how it all went down, he's very sorry bad things happened.

Re: SBF Arrested by Bahamian Authorities

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His parents are law professors, themselves with hundreds of millions they must have gained from their son's activities. We know that they have at least 10s of millions of dollars in real estate to their names. The probabilty that it's hubris, stupidity or privilege (all suggested in these comments) causing these interviews is less close to 1 than the probability it's a tactic to portray himself as a distracted lunati…

It’s probably another case of Hanlon’s razor, “don’t attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”.

Malice + stupidity would answer this one.
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