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Dear Chess World
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#552Earlier quoted context omitted.
It wouldn't do much good since Stockfish could easily run on a raspberry pi or similar inside of that, say, in a player's shoe
yes but your ability to detect rf noise from electronics, even well shielded electronics, is greatly enhanced in that environment.
or better yet... follow the wikipedia model and have a parallel cheater chess league where there are cash prizes for proving after the fact that wins were the most sophisticated and undetectable cheats.
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#553Here is a crazy idea. If you get caught cheating, even once, you should be banned for life. Otherwise we end up in a lose-lose situation. It’s almost impossible for Magnus to prove Niemann cheated on that game. It’s impossible for Niemann to prove he didn’t cheat. But shouldn’t matter. He was caught cheating before, he shouldn’t have been allowed to compete again. I don’t remember Ben Johnson or Lance Armstrong getti…
Nieman was never caught cheating OTB
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#554Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's a relevant quote from Magnus regarding cheating: "I would just needed to cheat one or two times during a match, and I would not even need to be given moves, just the answer on which move was way better, or here there is a possibility of winning and here you need to be more careful. That is all I would need in order to be almost invincible." Even just 1 bit - an indication to be careful - would be enough to boo…
yes but against magnus , who is supposedly two levels above Hans, this is not just a one move cheat, he'd have to cheat + have a continuous absence of mistakes, which is an awful lot of information to transmit. i dont have a horse in this race i just like thinking about things in terms of information theory since this is a remarkable applied case another way to decide this - have them play blitz (where the moves are…
Carlsen has broken 3000 in blitz before... Unfortunately he's too good for it to mean anything I think.
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#555Here is a crazy idea. If you get caught cheating, even once, you should be banned for life. Otherwise we end up in a lose-lose situation. It’s almost impossible for Magnus to prove Niemann cheated on that game. It’s impossible for Niemann to prove he didn’t cheat. But shouldn’t matter. He was caught cheating before, he shouldn’t have been allowed to compete again. I don’t remember Ben Johnson or Lance Armstrong getti…
Lance’s case is interesting. Cheating is (was?) rampant in cycling. As Bill Burr joked “our roided up guy beat your roided up guy, what’s the big deal?”
I don’t think chess is as bad as cycling. Doesn’t excuse bad behavior, but gives some perspective
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#556Anyone who has played online video games long enough won't find this story about a known cheater getting caught again surprising. Its almost remarkable to see the same commentary and excuses being used for a counterstrike (fill in your multiple player game here) cheater playing out with a "proper" game like chess.
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#557Earlier quoted context omitted.
playing competitive Chess is a privilege, not a right like freedom. I'm totally fine with 0-tolerance, because the only penalty is you can't play in competitions. If you want to play chess with your mates, no one is going to stop you.
It's the dude's livelihood, though. There are laws about taking someone's tools if they owe a debt for similar reasons. I think it is a very similar thing.
That's not a very strong argument. Lawyers have been disbarred before, doctors have had their license revoked.
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#558Earlier quoted context omitted.
In one of those games, Nieman was losing by 1.3 points in the first 10 moves despite being 100% according to this analysis so I'll take it with a grain of salt. This only looks at having moves within the top 3 engine moves done by one of the engines tested, and sometimes there's just 1-2 good moves so doing 1 out of 10 (or whatever) possible moves doesn't mean you did anything good. Further, it's unclear how cherry-p…
A 1.3 difference out of an opening sideline is neither rare nor lost, and mostly simply comes down to the fact that the engine doesn't understand the opening. Even the mod pin in the link you posted clearly outlines that this is a misleading way to frame this. It would be better to read more into the discussion before helping misinformation spread.
"The engine doesn't understand the opening" might have applied 10 years ago but you'll have a very hard time finding a single opening in all of chess where it would be the case now.
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#559Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps play naked in a Faraday cage?
this is really the only way (maybe not naked, but change into preapproved uniforms)
Eve Babitz played artist Marcel Duchamp* naked. Perhaps clothing optional? ;-)
https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-marcel-duchamp...
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#560I have no opinions on the actual event given I have no clue what the details are. But accusing someone of cheating without any concrete evidence doesn’t sit well with me. It creates a situation where it declares all exceptional cases impossible. It’s impossible for growth. It’s impossible that someone could lose to a weaker player. I suspect that people are able to say “even without concrete evidence, this is astrono…
I think you're uneasy because you're assuming the accusation of cheating has to do with the outcome of Hans's games but I don't believe that's the criterion Magnus is using. Magnus has been beaten many times before, but that doesn't automatically cause him to suspect his opponent of cheating. Magnus's suspicions arise from a sum of many different factors some of which he mentioned in this tweet and some of which he clearly can't talk about. If we judge people based on their past actions, their suspicious behaviour during the game or during the post-game analysis then it doesn't preclude the advancement of a legitimate genius player.