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EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted

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Post by erik_seaberg »

badpun wrote: post #406
rootusrootus wrote: post #39

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Owning my own house, I will say that I'd happily never buy another ICE car. Charging at home is so much better than waiting in line at the gas station every week. The performance is excellent. In basically all ways that don't involve absurdly long road trips, the EV is the better choice. But price. That's the killer right now. They're popular, batteries are expensive. I may actually go back to a PHEV for my next car…

> Charging at home is so much better than waiting in line at the gas station every week. There are lines at gas stations in developed countries? I can't even remember when I last saw one.

Many stations aren’t busy, but some people wait in line for Costco prices.

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Post by chrisco255 »

rcMgD2BwE72F wrote: post #409
chrisco255 wrote: post #93

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Unless they improve the recharge speed or dramatically improve thr power density, we're gonna have ICEs for a long time. Electric vehicles are not good in cold weather, they so far have not proven themselves to be capable of long haul towing (battery life drops off precipitously while towing), there is not enough charging ports or parking spots for hundreds of millions of cars to recharge, emergency vehicles cannot d…

>Electric vehicles are not good in cold weather, The country with highest share of EV is… Norway. And by a huge margin. https://alternative-fuels-observatory.ec.europa.eu/transport... I think you're wrong.

https://insideevs.com/news/556375/electric-car-winter-range-...

EVs lose 15-40% of their range in cold weather.

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Post by Schroedingersat »

bosswipe wrote: post #246
endisneigh wrote: post #74

I love EVs. That being said I wish someone would make an enclosed bicycle/motorcycle that costs less than $2000. Something like that which can go 30mph and had space for 2 days of groceries would be enough for me to eliminate my car all together. I'm cobbling something similar now with a Class 3 cargo ebike, but rain sucks =/ The idealist in me says that electric ebikes could eliminate most of Americas problems in on…

As a long time daily biker I don't understand the trend of heftier more powerful ebikes. Instead of bulking a bike up to me it makes more sense to slim cars down. I've been trying to find tiny electric two seater cars, but I've been disappointed in the lack of anything in the US, they're more available in europe and Japan. Actually now that I typed this comment out I think I understand the trend of heftier ebikes, it…

> Actually now that I typed this comment out I think I understand the trend of heftier ebikes, it's a way to skirt the regulations around making a "street legal" vehicle, which is what prevents any innovation in the Yeah. American regulations call monster trucks cars, they don't have cars and they call LEVs bicycles.

Re: EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted

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Post by Schroedingersat »

anon291 wrote: post #242
endisneigh wrote: post #74

I love EVs. That being said I wish someone would make an enclosed bicycle/motorcycle that costs less than $2000. Something like that which can go 30mph and had space for 2 days of groceries would be enough for me to eliminate my car all together. I'm cobbling something similar now with a Class 3 cargo ebike, but rain sucks =/ The idealist in me says that electric ebikes could eliminate most of Americas problems in on…

> EVs are much heavier than their equivalent ICE vehicles. Hopefully this doesn't result in EV accidents being more likely to have a fatality This isn't a matter of hope. Heavier things traveling the same speed have more momentum.. Momentum kills

> Momentum kills

I'd say it's somewhere in between momentum and energy. A motorbike doing 300km/h is more dangerous than a car doing 35km/h or a concrete truck at walking pace.

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Post by oblio »

endisneigh wrote: post #74

I love EVs. That being said I wish someone would make an enclosed bicycle/motorcycle that costs less than $2000. Something like that which can go 30mph and had space for 2 days of groceries would be enough for me to eliminate my car all together. I'm cobbling something similar now with a Class 3 cargo ebike, but rain sucks =/ The idealist in me says that electric ebikes could eliminate most of Americas problems in on…

> - EVs are much heavier than their equivalent ICE vehicles.

Extra:

- more tire and road particulates pollution

- more road wear (someone said something like road wear is the power of 4 of the weight of the vehicle, which makes extra weight particularly awful), ergo higher infra expenses

Re: EV adoption in US is happening faster than predicted

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Post by ITWarrior »

yourusername wrote: post #359
ht_th wrote: post #345

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Yes, outside the cities and villages, where the number of pedestrians is low and that of cyclists often not large either. In those situations sharing infrastructure generally isn't an issue. Inside cities and villages, I don't think I've seen roads with a bike path, but without a pedestrian path. Maybe I've seen one in an industrial park or so.

>Inside cities and villages, I don't think I've seen roads with a bike path, but without a pedestrian path. I see this situation all the time. Does every single bicycle underpass under the motorway have a full sidewalk alongside it? I can point to many situations in the Hague, Utrecht and Rotterdam where the bicycle path is the only option for pedestrians getting from point to point. I also know of tunnels that have…

Yes that is true, but most of the time this happens in places where only a few pedestrians are likely to use it. I can count on one hand the amount of times in the last few years that I have needed to walk on a bike path as a pedestrian while working in Amsterdam and visiting many other cities and towns.

It happens I agree, but as far as I can tell there are few places in the Netherlands where more than the occasional pedestrian need to walk on the bike path for more than a few meters.

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Post by YeBanKo »

sandworm101 wrote: post #531
YeBanKo wrote: post #236

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What exactly did he need internet for?

To find the nearest charging station along the detour route. He was already down below 1/2 charge, meaning he couldn't go back the way he came.

I am surprised that that don't have an offline version for the maps. The location of the charge station does not change that often, operational status might, but few hours stale data should still be sufficient to navigate.
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