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A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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Post by unity1001 »

mgpc wrote: post #425

Google's arrogance here is astonishing. The police say no fault, and it's the subject of an NYT investigation, and they still won't restore the account. What hope do the rest of us have? I've been an Android user for a long time, but I think this might finally push me to switch to Apple. I'm just disgusted by this.

> What hope do the rest of us have?

The Eu starting to fine the living daylights out of Google for not allowing people get their data from their account per the new digital gatekeepers act that the big tech has 6 months to comply.

They did it to Microsoft when Microsoft refused to comply with the browser ballot box initiative, saying that it was "technically near impossible". They started fining them 500,000 Eur/day or something. Then Microsoft magically made the ballot box happen within 2 weeks.

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Post by OrangeMusic »

ryandrake wrote: post #463
41b696ef1113 wrote: post #377

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to, really I do, but it feels like trading one devil for another. Email is by far the biggest albatross around my neck. To migrate email requires me to setup two different failure points: purchase a domain and a Fastmail-like service. Now that is two different places that are subject to me forgetting to pay a bill, being social engineered into giving away my account, etc. To say nothing of the long tail of acq…

E-mail should be the first thing you migrate, precisely because it is the key to every other service you rely on. If you're randomly banned from your E-mail service, you're pretty much screwed. E-mail is too important to let someone else host. Move it as close to your own control as your technical ability allows. Do it today, in fact, do it right now.

+1! Getting your own domain name is not hard, you can still use GMail with it for now, and switch to something else if there's a problem with it. Plus xyz@yourowndomain.com is way cooler than xyz@gmail.com.

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Post by bitwize »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #442
therealdrag0 wrote: post #420

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Similar in South Korea: https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/5476857/south-korean-game-do... But what does this have to do with nudity or destroying lives? Seems totally off base.

The similarity is because it's an example of something other cultures see as normal, or at least harmless, but in the US it is seen as an egregious offense. Not hard for me to imagine a 7 year old American getting expelled and potentially prosecuted for trying to play a "Kancho" prank on a friend.

In America you can be prosecuted for being that weird kid who tries to kiss everybody. It can result in permanent sex-offender registration, and when they look at your record it won't say you were a weird kid who tried to kiss everybody. It will say something like "INDCNT ASSAULT VICTIM UNDER 12 YO". Try explaining that to employers.

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Post by Valakas_ »

jongjong wrote: post #315
elif wrote: post #276

From my travels, my impression has been that America in particular treats child nudity as completely, unexceptionally obscene, beyond even adult nudity. Compared to a beach in Europe, where nearly half of children under 2 run naked, there seems to be no grey area or minimum acceptability in the US. It makes me wonder if our hypersexualized treatment of child nudity /actively contributes/ to the sexualization of child…

Haha yeah, in Europe there are often naked children running around at the beach. In Germany, there are places (especially lakes) where everyone is walking around, swimming and sunbathing naked - Sometimes the whole family. For me it was quite a shock initially but now I think it's fine.

I find that a bit weird tbh. I mean, if we look at human tribes throughout the world/history, and even what is the most common nowadays in african tribes which maintain their dressing habits, they usually cover their genitals. It indicates to me it is human nature to do that. It seems to me, in some countries for several reasons, they are going against the grain, purely out of culture.

But there's something weird about it. Just like when you look at previous periods in time and now they look weird, often just reactions to previous epochs or other cultures (like the neoclacissim came as an opposition to rococo and baroque).

This feels like it. It doesn't feel natural. It feels like it is purely out of a contrarian way of thinking, about how forward thinking they are, "look how superior we are that we are completely void of instinct to cover ourselves". and perhaps somewhat of a sexual counter balance to the strictness of the rest of their culture. I'm not sure i'm explaining this in the best way. I think there is a natural middle ground, the one that we have seen throughout hunter gathere human history, and Nordic countries are just being culturally weird by going to one extreme.

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Post by archon1410 »

MikePlacid wrote: post #541
akira2501 wrote: post #438

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> A child was once forced to masturbate in front of a camera by COURT ORDER. Police held them down. All because the child was a victim of child pornography and the court wanted a "comparison image" in a similar arousal state to prove it was a image of that child. That summary is misleading and, I feel, wrong. It's not accurate to state that he was "a victim of child pornography," the complaint in this case was agains…

> Merely participating in the demand side implicates you in these crimes against children as you are suborning their abuse. So if someone participates in say P2P sharing of a CP video with some background copyrighted music, she can be simultaneously guilty of: 1. Suborning the creation of the CP by participating in the demand side. 2. Undermining the creation of music by distributing it for free. Something inside me…

I think HN would say 2 is wrong here—people often argue that piracy actually helps sales as it promotes the media. if that is accepted, then the court would be correct in asserting 1.

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Post by throwawayffffas »

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #16

controversial opinion: as much as everybody knows that China isn't exactly championing the western way of life and western democratic standards, I keep my private files in a Chinese cloud (backups are kept private in a NAS in my house). Why? Because they are not in contact with our authorities and, frankly, the chances my private files will be of any interest for Chinese authorities are close to zero. Not that I have…

That's an incredibly bad idea, you are exposing yourself to a lot more risk, than using a western cloud.

They are not in contact with our authorities, until they decide they want to. It's not like you are a Chinese factory owner making counterfeit wranglers, I doubt they would deny any kind of request from a western government about a westerner.

Your access to the service is also under risk, at any time there could be a breakdown of relations leaving you unable to pay for the service, that would have happened already, if you had chosen Russia instead of China.

Your behavior also looks suspicious to the western intelligence apparatus. Sending potentially terabytes to Chinese servers as a private individual may very well put you on their radar.

As others have noted you are setting yourself up as a prime candidate for an intelligence asset, they could at any point blackmail you to perform any action they want.

With what would they blackmail you? The terrabytes of CSAM they could at any point plant in your account. Do you think they would be above doing that, if they had anything to gain and were aware that you exist? Or do you think your Chinese provider would require a court order to give you up? Your entire bet is that they don't know that you exist.

My main point as advice to others mostly is you shouldn't put your self in the hands of your adversary.

I don't even know how you trust their software to run on your system.

PS: If you think all these are farfetched and paranoid, I will remind you that China routinely takes hostages to achieve diplomatic concessions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostage_diplomacy#China

Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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Post by elif »

therealdrag0 wrote: post #420
elif wrote: post #385

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in japan, children play a game called Kancho, where they put their index fingers together and try to insert it into the anus of their unsuspecting friend. in america, you could destroy someone's life over that. (possibly even multiple lives)

Similar in South Korea: https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/5476857/south-korean-game-do... But what does this have to do with nudity or destroying lives? Seems totally off base.

My point was that the hypersensitive treatment of children's bodies seems to promote child hypersexualization at the cultural level.

The OP of this thread's life was wrecked in such a way that suggests our cultural norms are unhealthy.

It is therefore noteworthy to study extreme cultural practices which are HEAVILY legislated in the US (28% of 14-17 year olds report having been sexually victimized), almost always treated in a manner which results in trauma for both victim and actor, yet in a similarly advanced culture (with only 296 total child sex abuses reported last year), is literally a game you play and laugh about.

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Post by nguyenkien »

sreevisakh wrote: post #469
GekkePrutser wrote: post #156

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I moved that off too. Aurora Store in anonymous mode works great and also shows privacy info of each app

The biggest problem with Play store is that many apps are geographically restricted. That includes banking and public transport apps. Some apps are restricted without even the knowledge of the developer. Most of those apps have no good reason at all to be restricted like that. Such apps often cannot be accessed through Aurora. Sadly, there are no laws or provisions to challenge such unethical tactics. Using Google's…

Actually I use aurora to by pass geo fence like this all the time. You need search it int web browser and open in aurora, voila, you can install it

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Post by Shocka1 »

Valakas_ wrote: post #554
jongjong wrote: post #315

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haha yeah, in Europe there are often naked children running around at the beach. In Germany, there are places (especially lakes) where everyone is walking around, swimming and sunbathing naked - Sometimes the whole family. For me it was quite a shock initially but now I think it's fine.

I find that a bit weird tbh. I mean, if we look at human tribes throughout the world/history, and even what is the most common nowadays in african tribes which maintain their dressing habits, they usually cover their genitals. It indicates to me it is human nature to do that. It seems to me, in some countries for several reasons, they are going against the grain, purely out of culture. But there's something weird abo…

I follow what you're saying and completely agree, especially with the "look how superior we are that we are completely void of instinct.." quote - there are many things this could apply to nowadays in today's instant gratification and influencer (for the likes) driven culture.

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Post by anon291 »

kornhole wrote: post #321
anon291 wrote: post #294

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Do you have any suggestions for open-source Android backup solutions that can back up everything? Because I'm having a hard time finding any.

I have Nextcloud running on a Raspberry PI along with a dozen other services on yunohost.org. Nextcloud automatically backs up my family's contacts, calendars, notes, tasks, photos, files, passwords, bookmarks, phone locations and more. If you want to backup the APK's check out Seedvault. I am personally fine manually reinstalling APK's if/when needed so have not tried Seedvault yet.

Don't you need to backup apks if you want app data?

As for hosting... I just rent colo space and cut out all the cloud stuff.

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