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Post by sumedh »

skor wrote: post #512
sumedh wrote: post #154

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There are some things which you should not answer unless you have experienced it yourself. Having kids is one of them. All your activity sounds good on paper but real life does not work like that. Kids are smart, they can see you are on your smart device, they can see others are on their phones/ipads when they go outside. You dont want your kid to be a social outcast. Sometimes when you want to do your chores or want…

parent here, if you can’t work while your 3-5 year old is entertained with drawing or reading (looking at pictures in) your books/library, you didn’t teach them to entertain themselves. Music and radio drama work wonders too. Just compare their feedback over time using the different approaches and you’ll notice that they work more their imagination when the content is not laid out entirely by someone else.

You can do the things which you mentioned on an ipad as well, its not just a device for content laid out entirely by someone else.

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Post by sumedh »

rpmisms wrote: post #447
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You can make the same arguments in the past about kids watching TV and then kids using a PC. In 10 years, parents will be complaining about AR/VR

> You can make the same arguments in the past about kids watching TV and then kids using a PC. Yes. This is true, and they're still valid complaints. I grew up (currently in my 20s) without a TV or PC with a GUI. > In 10 years, parents will be complaining about AR/VR Same potential for completely ruining kids, if not worse.

> This is true, and they're still valid complaints.

Not giving access to PCs/Ipads etc is not a good solution though.

I would complain that your parents robbed you of some cool experiences by not letting you use a TV or a PC.

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Post by alexitosrv »

roflyear wrote: post #466
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I agree. This has been my setup as of lately https://imgur.com/a/1CjpS8G . Portable 4k screen (the glare in the photo is not really visible in front). . Custom mount for the laptop and a . Wireless thinkpad keyboard with a trackpoint (which I love). The cabling management has improved now, but this setup gives plenty of screen real estate, both displays are touch, and in comparison with a tablet where the application…

what do you do for work?

I work as an infra architect at an MSP, so mostly Teams calls and Visio (sometimes even MS Whiteboard). and heavy web browsing.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

franga2000 wrote: post #546
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the store is not an expert in the electronics inside the device, or the firmware that runs on it, so they're incapable of providing any meaningful support

I guess my question is what kind of support do you need for a laptop (that any other manufacturer is going to provide)? Software issues are the OS vendor's problem, for hardware issues they'll just tell you to send it to the shop, parts compatibility doesn't exist since nothing is replaceable... I guess driver issues? But then they'll just tell you to either run Windows Update or install it from their downloads page.

sure, it sounds like you understand why the support is bad for most of their devices (which aren't laptops), so here are things Dell support has helped me out with, with one of my laptops they made:

- issues with the OS (yep, Microsoft definitely isn't going to pick up the phone and provide support)

- processor speed issues

- processor virtualization issues

- overnighted me a processor replacement for me to replace under warranty

- overnighted me a technician to fix my poor processor installation, still under warranty

- overnighted me a replacement keyboard to install

as far as I know, Asus has neither negotiated nor paid retailers to provide the type of support manufacturers are supposed to provide, so they can't wash their hands of it

you seem to be pessimistic about things a support team of engineers can or should or will do, possibly based on experience with Asus support :), but tech support for a computer or a device exceeds "have you tried turning it off and back on" and "ok return it", or it's bad support

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Post by alexvoda »

csdvrx wrote: post #453
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... you need to manually fix it for Windows? Does it ship with Linux or something? Edit: Great read - and your your enthusiasm for the device is getting me interested in it, but what an incredible software shit show. Imagine spending millions on hardware R&D only to release a product that's unusable due to terrible software. Why do manufacturers keep doing this?

> Edit: Great read - and your your enthusiasm for the device is getting me interested in it Just get one - it's hard to live without it now!! > but what an incredible software shit show. Microsoft didn't deliver the OS they were supposed to (bad) but Windows 11 is everything and more (good) Intel... well, it's Intel. If you go into plane mode before suspend and play with the device manager to restart the device when…

I also avoided the Lenovo because of the many, especially software, 1st gen rough edges, but the (Surface Neo) form factor is very appealing. Part of that form factor is the included magnetic wireless keyboard. We actually had touch-enabled dual-screen keyboardless clamshells before.

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Post by jillesvangurp »

iasay wrote: post #32
jfoster wrote: post #20

Looks fancy. Is this what the market wants? I don't particularly like Apple, but I use a Macbook Pro. I've been keeping an eye out for a non-Apple alternative to a Macbook, but nothing seems to come close in terms of hardware. I don't mean technical specs. I mean a beautiful screen, reasonable dimensions & weight, a really good touchpad, great battery life, etc. A big foldable screen looks cool, but doesn't feel at a…

The reason that there is no non-Apple alternatives to the MacBook Pro is because everyone is too focused on blue sky innovation rather than actually doing the best job of stuff that already exists. Quality is the feature that apple sell. I don't think anyone else gets near them.

I don't know what other manufacturers are focusing on, but it sure looks unimpressive. I just received my shiny new macbook pro 14 inch. I spent the last few months using a Linux laptop. Overall a good experience and it works. But I'm glad to be back on a mac.

Quality and performance are where Apple just shines. Most PC manufacturer's seem to mainly compete on how bad of a screen & touchpad combination they can find. There are some truly awful things on the market of manufacturers that just stopped even trying a long time ago. Touchpads are universally awful in the laptop market, with the exception of Apple. I found this out by connecting my magic touchpad 2 to my Linux laptop. Works great! As good as with a mac. The software support in Linux is fine. Precise, responsive, smooth, just like it should be. It's the hardware that is the problem. Even brands that are supposedly premium keep opting for these cheep plastic touchpads with poor sensitivity, awkward button mechanics, etc. Apple nailed this decades ago. On this front they have no competition.

That, the screen, and the stellar performance of the M1 is making the difference right now. I connected an external drive with x-plane on it a few days ago to see how far I could push it. Turns out, I can max out all the sliders and it runs at about 30-40fps at the normal screen resolution. That's with lots of add ons, some of which are really demanding and using the rosetta emulator. Very impressive. For work, this thing runs circles around my Linux laptop. Build speeds are about 2-3x.

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Post by Ryanwest6 »

sgerenser wrote: post #396
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Mind sharing which one you have please? I’d like to drop one in my laptop bag sometimes.

I'm using a very similar setup for when I want to work away from my 27" 4K display but still need a second screen to be productive (e.g. doing almost anything coding-related). Like the previous poster, I set it up with the external screen directly above my laptop screen which for me is much more comfortable than trying to put it beside the laptop, and ends up at a perfect eye level. Bought this LG Gram 16" Portable d…

This is really neat and I want to find a similar solution. My concern is how long it takes to set things up - does it get tiring to always set up the tripod and mount together before adding on the screen? I wonder if anything exists with just a mount that attaches directly to the monitor (like Vesa but no screws).

And how is the durability of your portable display? I got one and used it for a year but keeping it in a carryon bag in airplanes eventually messed up the display from being pressed and bumped around.

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Post by drcode »

nicbou wrote: post #545
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I want something akin to a desktop with a big screen at home, but which I can also bring to a coffee shop. I don't want to have to fiddle with ugly docks, usb monitors, etc. Those things are a PITA.

Wouldn't it be better to just connect a normal laptop to a bigger screen?

That's what I'm doing now, it's a pain in the ass

It means I can only get a big screen when I happen to be where my big screen is (even a different room in the house is a pain) and every time I connect Windows decides to reposition my apps differently, and 10% of the time I have to reboot because something janky happened to the screen connection

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by drcode »

symlinkk wrote: post #553
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I'm a superfan of this device and follow all the news It'll be "only" $2999 in the US if we're lucky

Why do you like this device so much?

I can have a giant monitor in any room of the house when I'm working from home

I can get a stealth giant monitor at the coffee shop without looking like a freak (by using laptop mode but placing keyboard in front of lower screen)

And I can have a single PC I use for everything, no juggling files, no messing with docks, no messing with USB monitors (that require random reboots because of connection issues, or cause Windows to randomly reposition my apps all the time)

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