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> Just relying on cameras will not work. If it’s good enough for us (two small cameras and two microphones all mounted right next to each other) why is it inherently infeasible for a computer?
I find that argument being thrown around once in a while, but let me ask you this. Why are we spending billions of dollars in research that we can vaguely hope to reach human perception levels in one distant day. This whole thing is just not worth it. That's why I said especially for dense urban traffic driving, we need extra sensing, and need from the environment so it can help the car. Imagine if the car knew there…
Boeing 777 departing Dubai nearly had a major incident after takeoff
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> I catch heat every time I mention that air crew training and certification standards are not uniform across the globe and that I am reluctant to fly on many foreign-flag carriers. (However, Emirates and most EU-flag carriers are ones that I would not hesitate to fly on.) Has anyone made some sort of a rough list of which carriers one can feel safe on?
I’m probably going to get downvoted for this, but focus on large, legacy airlines based in countries that have a long safety record (not just in terms of crashes, but also just general approach to safety).
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By my reading, auto pilot was not involved. Flight Directors are basically an overlay on the instruments showing where the pitch, roll, etc. of the plane needs to be to achieve the programmed navigational fixes.
Is there any situation when it would make sense to have the flight director set to an altitude of zero before takeoff ? If not, then maybe it shouldn't stay switched on and set to zero after landing when the crew leaves the cabin ? Couldn't it be reset automatically ?
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#554You put your life in many other people's hands every time you step into an airport. If you use Chickens, Goats, and Passengers Airlines, expect not to make it to your destination in one piece. 737 NG (-6xx (736), -7xx, -8xx (738), -9xx (739)), MAX, and 787 are reasons not to fly on Boeing equipment. They have both obscure (Ducommun) and well-known history of cutting corners in design, testing, manufacturing, and who…
You, clearly, have never flown EK. I have six flights in EK first class under my belt. I've taken showers on their airplanes. I've enjoyed $1,500 bottles of 1964 port wine and cognac poured generously. I've eaten caviar and socialized at the onboard lounge. Believe me, EK is nothing like a "chicken and goat airline". It's world class all the way.
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siri's worse than google's voice system... Siri understands what I'm saying, and then CHANGES the correct words into something stupid. I just risk a fine and use my hands for a short moment instead of spending 2 minutes being distracted by siri.
OK Google is awful for me, it repeats back exactly what I said but rarely interprets it, at all. "Don't know how to help with 'navigate home'", "'send a message'", "'find a supermarket'". Bleurgh. This is via Android Auto. Next minute it's reading me a text and asking if I want to reply by "SMS or WhatsApp". None of these systems show you enough 'under the hood' to know why it's failing and so react. Clearly, here th…
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It doesn’t follow that errors will be catestrophic. It could be the car just fails to handle edge case situations and just stops… granted on a highway that’s bad but everywhere else, that’s a hassle to traffic at worst. Also highway full self driving is much closer to being a solved problem. Even the failures you see in the beta of Tesla FSD, aren’t catestrophic. The worst I’ve seen is a curb strikes in terms of actu…
What you are describing is level 4. And if tesla were anywhere near that that would be freaking brilliant. Tesla FSD has many deaths and countless serious accidents under it's belt. Which doesn't necessarily have to be that bad, but as expected a computer doesn't make the same kind of mistakes that a human does and the kind of mistakes that tesla does doesn't inspire confidence (but rather nightmare fuel that you jus…
There have been 0 deaths from FSD and as far as I’m aware only 1 crash. Do you mean autopilot? Or navigate on auto pilot?
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It doesn’t follow that errors will be catestrophic. It could be the car just fails to handle edge case situations and just stops… granted on a highway that’s bad but everywhere else, that’s a hassle to traffic at worst. Also highway full self driving is much closer to being a solved problem. Even the failures you see in the beta of Tesla FSD, aren’t catestrophic. The worst I’ve seen is a curb strikes in terms of actu…
I just looked up a random video of someone testing FSD 10.8 and in the first few minutes, it failed to signal before changing lanes and it almost caused an accident. All the while the driver is saying how good it is and how comfortable he is.. The car drives not smoothly at all and does random braking when around pedestrians. The car also features a yoke instead of a wheel. Which makes holding the yoke while autopilo…
“Nearly accident” is the same as “not an accident” and definitely not: catastrophic .
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>is the ability to do something more productive with my time Seems to miss my point, I may have not stated clearly. Yes I understand the sales pitch of self driving cars stated above...the "marketing" / "hype" of AI/self driving cars/ Tesla FSD evokes the idea of completely offloading the responsibility to the car and doing whatever you want with your time during commutes, as if it was public transit. But my point wa…
> But my point was anything less than this is a complete waste of time and useless as a product because until you are completely hands and attention off, you have to be completely hands and attention on/ready...no matter how good or near actual FSD it gets. Agreed. If I got a Telsa tomorrow I wouldn't do so with "FSD". > Because 99.9, or 99.9999, or 99.999999% effective is effectively 0 percent effective given the ca…
Search youtube videos of Teslas if you haven't seen them yet. The cars will randomly swerve into parked cars, inexplicably steer out of turns, aim directly at medians on the highway. Human errors on average do not equate to this if we want to compare human error "rates" to machine. What is the rate of a random catastrophic error? Machines are way way too high for the foreseeable future, and because of the nature of software bugs they arguably always be higher than humans. The scope of what AI has to be to achieve "general" driving on open-map roads with near infinite variables nearly equates to "general" AI itself.
You can't allow "halfway" monitoring the car. It's all or nothing. It's always monitored or it's not monitored because errors can happen at any time. But anyways, humans aren't robots. Their attention basically not focused if it's not focused completely... multi-tasking is false, and humans already fall asleep fairly easily driving manually. If they have to sit there "focused" but not driving this will lead to even more instances of sleeping or just not monitoring generally.
The numbers are a thought experiment what I mean by effectiveness or mistake or error is just the driver (man or machine) doing something they shouldn't have. Messing up. Humans have very low rates of these mistakes/bad actions/errors. They have very very low rates of catastrophic mistakes. I predict Tesla's won't be 99.anything for a long time. But think of how error-free they have to be to account for the huge domain of roads, signs, weather, terrains, other cars such that when they make their mistakes it doesn't result in disaster... or just "accidents" galore.
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#559I am reminded for some reason about an Air Asia (?) flight a few years ago that departed SYD/MEL for KUL (?) where by some fat finger accident one of the pilots initialized the plane's location (while on the ground), skipping or misplacing one decimal point in the lat/long somewhere. He had to do it manually because some FD/GPS system was not correctly functioning or was inop, and then after doing this there was no w…
Varig Flight 254 was another similar case [1]. Bad FMC data entry during preflight caused pilots to fly west, rather than east, until they were too low on fuel and crashed into the Amazon rainforest. Sun was setting, so cardinal direction was obvious, leading some passengers to ask flight attendants why they were flying the wrong direction, but they were brushed off. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varig_Flight_254