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Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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That particular example may have been exaggerated or extreme, but I think the point still stands. Someone just commented this "check out flat earth videos... they remove all comments that are critical and now with the dislike counter gone i guess the earth is flat.". Indeed. In this case for example it should not be flagged, but down-voted by the community.

I honestly couldn't tell whether that flat earth comment was being ironic or not, but I think it's an interesting case study either way. Is a visible YouTube downvote count really the only thing standing between a meaningful number of people and belief that the Earth is flat? I don't really buy it.

> Is a visible YouTube downvote count really the only thing standing between a meaningful number of people and belief that the Earth is flat?

I do not think so either, to be honest, but perhaps there may be something to it.

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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As much as I hate Discord, I do not think it is a fair comparison. Discord offers much more than IRC does, and requires less knowledge to get started.

Exactly. Not an uncommon state of affairs, for open sources va proprietary.

Is there an open source project that is doing well that has similar functionalities that Discord offers though?

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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If there's enough traction, the creators would start complaining to YouTube, and they'd have to rethink it. Also it would confuse creators: is this video shit, or is it the campaign?

Creators are already complaining to YouTube. So far they aren’t listening.

Let's not do anything then, and let the emperor do as he wish... /s

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Corruption is not legal. It is simply the apparent norm that we have come to expect from our elected officials, bureaucrats, journalists, courts, police, and many other occupational classes. And when in Rome….

Corruption is absolutely legal. For example, the revolving door between regulatory agencies and large businesses, insider trading by Congress members, large government contracts (especially in the military) being awarded not to the best companies bidding but the ones that will employ people in a given politicians district, and so on. All corruption, all legal and normalized. Many are just trained not to see it as cor…

Corruption may be the de facto standard operating procedure for the majority of government, but that does not make it legal. However, being illegal does not mean that we the people stand a snowball’s chance in hell of draining that swamp.

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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> blatantly and prominently push their political agenda Only if you consider egalitarianism and diversity as political issues. To most of society they are universal values so it’s not contentious.

Well, they are political issues, because they don't exist in a vacuum and nuance exists. For example, what do you mean by egalitarianism? Equality under the law? Well, Republicans/Liberals tend to agree with equality under the law, whereas Leftists and Gender/Racial Identitarians don't. California recently tried to repeal 1960s civil rights legislation preventing discrimination by race, precisely because they'd like…

Diversity for these purposes is biologically defined. Different race, different sex are pretty much it. A difference in ideology within the same race or sex doesn’t doesn’t count as diverse as I’m using it.

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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The evidence presented in this video isn't anywhere near enough to confirm that this is actually true, yet you're already offering up speculative explanations about google's intentions as if it's all a foregone conclusion and you know exactly why. I think that's a little weird.

When it comes to censorship, I think at best it doesn't really matter why , and at worst it's fair to assume mal intent, even if it's not obvious or provable. Otherwise (and without an affirmative reason), why hide it? That's the nature of censorship. But especially so when the "alpha testing" is specifically done on videos of the new White House administration. Unless you're questioning whether removing the downvote…

Bingo. Censorship opens the door to all of these questions.

Censorship is bad, even if done for the right reasons.

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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Well, they are political issues, because they don't exist in a vacuum and nuance exists. For example, what do you mean by egalitarianism? Equality under the law? Well, Republicans/Liberals tend to agree with equality under the law, whereas Leftists and Gender/Racial Identitarians don't. California recently tried to repeal 1960s civil rights legislation preventing discrimination by race, precisely because they'd like…

Diversity for these purposes is biologically defined. Different race, different sex are pretty much it. A difference in ideology within the same race or sex doesn’t doesn’t count as diverse as I’m using it.

Ok, so, diversity of gender and race is just good, period? Do you mean that people should be represented by race and gender in accordance with their population makeup? i.e. 13% of doctors should be black, and 50% of nurses should be male? At what cost, and what makes you think that would be a good thing?

For one, Indian immigrants in the US disproportionately enter medicine, as do other Asians, in total constituting 17% of doctors. This is despite Asians constituting 6% of the population. 5% of doctors are black, despite constituting 13% of the population. In accordance with most advocating diversity for the sake of diversity, the reason for the disparity is assumed post hoc to have been due to discrimination...but why? It's as if the inputs have absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the outcomes. In order to seek population parity, that would mean arbitrarily capping the number of Asian doctors, and arbitrarily pulling black doctors from a pool of applicants that literally doesn't exist.

Rather than a deontological approach, of perhaps simply ensuring that the hiring process is as blind and devoid of bias as possible, diversity advocates are instead interested in diversity for the sake of diversity.

Again, this is political beyond just "being a good person" or not.

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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Diversity for these purposes is biologically defined. Different race, different sex are pretty much it. A difference in ideology within the same race or sex doesn’t doesn’t count as diverse as I’m using it.

Ok, so, diversity of gender and race is just good, period? Do you mean that people should be represented by race and gender in accordance with their population makeup? i.e. 13% of doctors should be black, and 50% of nurses should be male? At what cost, and what makes you think that would be a good thing? For one, Indian immigrants in the US disproportionately enter medicine, as do other Asians, in total constituting…

Yes it’s just good for it’s own sake. The aim has to be the mitigation of problems that will arise from integrated living like that.

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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Ok, so, diversity of gender and race is just good, period? Do you mean that people should be represented by race and gender in accordance with their population makeup? i.e. 13% of doctors should be black, and 50% of nurses should be male? At what cost, and what makes you think that would be a good thing? For one, Indian immigrants in the US disproportionately enter medicine, as do other Asians, in total constituting…

Yes it’s just good for it’s own sake. The aim has to be the mitigation of problems that will arise from integrated living like that.

This is fucking stupid.
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