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Can anyone here convince me AR/VR isn't a fad? If FB is headed towards a metaverse where our insane uncles can embed themselves further in a false reality, how is it that the rest of us sane individuals want to join their conspiratorial matrix? Even taking out the crazy uncles, VR makes me insanely nauseous. What's more, it's very expensive to get solid VR that doesn't, nevermind it still looks terrible even if you h…

Quest 2 is 300$ and completely standalone

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I see this sentiment posted often on HN but I've seen no social media that didn't eventually become toxic or that didn't feed on human attention, this website included. What good is a platform if nobody pays attention to it? And if people are paying attention to it, how do you plan to prevent them from fighting, competing with each other over every little thing, and spreading misinformation?

I’ve seen it said (somewhere, sorry) that humans simply aren’t designed to interact on these mass social scales. And (without evidence, I admit) that feels kind of right to me. The ideal social network is a small one. But the incentives of advertising and/or just growth in general mean that it would difficult to compete in the market against the likes of Facebook.

> I’ve seen it said (somewhere, sorry) that humans simply aren’t designed to interact on these mass social scales.

This is something I’ve said, though I doubt I’m the only one. One particular problem is the availability heuristic goes very wildly off-course when there’s an internet bandwagon.

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> I'm confused by the laser focus on FB all of a sudden. You have to look at in the context of the 2016 election. Once it was discovered that the winning team utilized Facebook in a way the losing team had no concept of (or more likely they simply didn’t use said concept as effectively), Facebook has been singled out and targeted by most media outlets for being evil and in need of strict government regulations, to pr…

But replace every instance of "Facebook" with "the Internet" in your message. Why not cancel the Internet as a whole?

Because that’s too obvious and also Facebook’s userbase’s ideologies lean the opposite direction from the establishment, and Facebook is their best tool for sharing information that happens to run counter to what the establishment (media, government, etc) finds to be ideal.

Besides, there are only a few sites that most people ever visit. The internet is “small” now. Tackle the biggest threat, the rest will fall in line - likely with glee since they already enforce pro-establishment censorship policies as it is. Twitter, for example.

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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Meta-comment: Corporate press releases are poor OPs; it is only the facts and spin they want to present, rather than good journalism which covers more facts, other analysis, multiple points of view.

It's similar to the reason that Wikipedia doesn't allow primary sources (last I knew), only secondary ones. The primary source has a strong bias and can say anything.

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Everyone keeps saying metaverse, but meta makes me think of metadata, which is about the worst name they could have chosen.

"Are you worried about FB storing all your data? Okay, lets rename to a word that is about scooping up all relevant data."

Re: Facebook Renames to Meta

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If there is going to be a metaverse, I'm not sure I want Facebook to own it. It's like a bad sci-fi pulp story. Given their investment and research, I wonder if they should open it all up (even if contradictory to short-term gains in ad revenue) so it has a chance to grow? Federate it a bit more than they are comfortable with, to at least give it a chance. I could see this flubbing out hard otherwise. I'm personally…

Welcome to Ready Player One

Except it's run by Nolan Sorrento from day one.

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> It makes me believe Zuckerberg is completely surrounded by yes-men I feel like the opposite. Zuck is the only one to believe in the metaverse and as a result people who worked on the communication did it badly without a lot of conviction. He is in a pretty comfortable position, one of the richest people on earth doing 20% of growth every year. And still he wants to make a big risky bet like this one. I'm not really…

What things would those be? As far as I know his successes are a) 1 idea he had as a 19-year-old plus b) some other things that he bought with the money from that.

How about building one of the largest companies in the world? Would others be able to do that if they had that idea as a 19-year-old? Let's not reduce all his accomplishments to a single idea. Ideas don't matter, execution matters.

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>Don’t like Facebook one bit, but Zuck is almost always spot on with his bets. So yes, incredibly scary as it has a high likelihood of succeeding. Instagram was growing like crazy, even faster than Facebook in its early days so acquisition was no-brainer. Instagram used Facebook's social graph so acquisition made even more sense. On the other hand WhatsApp had hundreds millions users at the time of acquisition and La…

What?! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3817840 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7266618 Unless you're an extremely successful businessman yourself, calling those acquisitions no-brainers is just completely dishonest.

In 1.5 years Instagram had 50 million monthly active users[0]. Yea it was no-brainer considering other mobile photo apps existed and Facebook and Twitter were also doing photos.

[0] https://techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/instagram-...

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