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YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by Zuider »

arp242 wrote: post #513
skneko wrote: post #446

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Those kinds of sites don't work. There are no operative workarounds as far as I know.

It used to be that youtube-dl worked, but on that CIA video I now get: [youtube] _2khAmMTAjI: Downloading webpage [youtube] _2khAmMTAjI: Refetching age-gated info webpage WARNING: unable to download video info webpage: HTTP Error 410: Gone ERROR: Sign in to confirm your age This video may be inappropriate for some users. Meh. The following content has been identified by the YouTube community as inappropriate or offen…

Have you tried the YTBypass, 'youtubensfw' redirect? At first, the video won't load, but there is a notice to 'click this if the site won't load.' which brings up the video. It becomes possible to download the video then, although it is very slow.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by hackinthebochs »

YZF wrote: post #503
rajin444 wrote: post #499

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> There's indisputable evidence that the vaccination is impacting R > Ofcourse we can't tell anything with certainty in this domain Which one is it? I'm sorry - there are issues with nearly all the links and data you've provided, but I don't have the time to go through them with you. I agree with you that the vaccine is very likely impacting R. I don't agree that it is enough to matter yet - we could vaccinate everyo…

You're contradicting yourself. You're saying you agree with me the vaccine is very likely impacting R yet you're saying it doesn't help. Which one is it? We have lots of places, such as where I live, where the number of deaths and hospitalizations and daily cases is about level. Since you agreed with me vaccinations impact R you can also agree with me that going from 75% vaccinations to 100% vaccinations is going to…

>You're contradicting yourself. You're saying you agree with me the vaccine is very likely impacting R yet you're saying it doesn't help. Which one is it?

When it comes to exponential growth, the difference in practice between an exponent of 1.5 vs 2 is negligible.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by sethammons »

iab wrote: post #540
downandout wrote: post #537

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If you're looking for one? 100%.

Just such a unique, rare name though.

Depending on your definition of unique. Roughly one out of 700 people are named Brandon according to wolfram alpha

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by twofornone »

_kbh_ wrote: post #546
lettergram wrote: post #542

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> To me it's terrifying that Presidential actions are now being dictated by SEO concerns, but it is interesting. Does this really surprise you? - The opposing parties leadership is censored more than every authoritarian around the world. - stories about Biden’s son is censored - bad stories about Biden are censored - every person connected to the opposing party is being “investigated” - the DOJ literally sent out a s…

I'd like to see evidence for a lot of these claims that come from reliable sources cause I don't think the majority of them are true. > - anyone who has claimed election interference on the 2020 election has been threatened with lawsuits, lost jobs, etc I feel this is an especially interesting claim because the only people i've seen get hit with law suits for this have continually defamed specific companies and not j…

>I'd like to see evidence for a lot of these claims that come from reliable sources cause I don't think the majority of them are true.

This is effectively a disingenuous argument when the evidence clearly suggests that so called "reliable sources" are colluding to suppress content that is inconvenient for their political leanings.

Incidentally it also ensures that all of wikipedia leans left, since any outlets which run counter to leftist politics are rejected as unreliable by definition. It's a dishonest, preemptive dismissal of any alternative perspective and it is absolutely toxic to national discourse. In practice you are relying on a circular argument, wherein the self proclaimed arbiters of truth have also defined themselves, and only themselves, as "reliable sources".

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by unclebucknasty »

fabianhjr wrote: post #256
unclebucknasty wrote: post #242

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The idea of treating as a monopoly problem is interesting, but I'm not sure how you prevent centralization like this from repeating itself in the future, given that it is built on network effects. At the end of the day there will be a concentration of audiences somewhere , so I don't think this problem goes away. What I wonder is whether at a certain point we actually need to protect people from themselves. I get how…

> given that it is built on network effects. Network effects can happen in a federated or decentralized way: - Email is useful regardless of the software, OS, server or owner of the address you are sending emails to. - The fediverse benefits from network effects and interoperability between instances with both different software and different communities. I would even go further and argue that centralized "network ef…

>Network effects can happen in a federated or decentralized way

There's no technical reason they can't, but practically, a central, easily discernible destination appeals to those looking to monetize their content.

Email is a one-to-one (or few) channel vs broadcast. Completely different.

The arguments about decentralization/federation remind me of the early days of the Net, wherein there was so much talk of democratization, but here we are (unfortunately).

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by OrvalWintermute »

YZF wrote: post #523
OrvalWintermute wrote: post #518

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> There's indisputable evidence that the vaccination is impacting R. I think you are misusing the word indisputable, since clearly, people are disputing it. > While it's true that the accuracy of estimates for R depends on many factors and certainly there have always been some cases flying under the radar (though that has been studied extensively via antibody studies and other means) proxies like the number of people…

You're making it sound like the people looking at this are idiots. Of course this is tracked across age groups. Look at the BC data where it's broken down by age. Also are you suggesting that the relative portion of the population in certain age groups has changed dramatically? Because otherwise you can still look at the aggregate as indicators. Sorry if I'm misusing the work indisputable. English is not my mother to…

> From where I stand, given the evidence, the people who say something like "vaccination has no impact on R" are not far from people claiming the earth is flat. I mean maybe the earth is flat. Even the guy who responded to me saying I was wrong then changes his mind on that

Judging from the statistics of high vaccination rate countries like Israel vs Sweden,[1] there are a few important questions to respond with such as:

Which vaccine, formulated against which variant?

Vaccinated When?

Against which infectious variant?

At what point was herd immunity hit?

Overall, it appears as though Sweden's approach was better as they are not having a 3rd wave, they hit herd immunity, because natural immunity > vaccination, they have more durable results against future variants, etc.

I'm not disputing whether we should vaccinate some that are old, or have comordibidities, or want to get it. But, pushing a leaky vaccine across a large population is a license to get mutations and cause new variants in a large population. In effect, adapting the virus to target the vaccinated.

[1] https://ianmsc.substack.com/p/why-does-no-one-ever-talk-abou...

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by indymike »

DenverCoder99 wrote: post #447
WalterBright wrote: post #425

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Since the government is leaning on them to do it, this is clearly a Constitutional right to free speech issue.

If the social media platforms in question are taking down posts on the recommendations (or demands, take your pick) of the White House's senior staff, then I think it's fair to say that they are State Actor's.

If they are, they need to stop.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by Zuider »

nomilk wrote: post #535
downandout wrote: post #527

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This is a fascinating tweet on many levels. 1) I think it's safe to assume that Joe Biden has no SEO expertise, which means that someone with the power to send the President of the United States out for a photo op does. They went out and found someone named Brandon for Biden to pose for a photo op with. 2) To me it's terrifying that Presidential actions are now being dictated by SEO concerns, but it is interesting. 3…

The 'reclaim' phenomenon is fascinating. I presume all politicians do this, well, all who have staff sophisticated enough to grok SEO and respond within a few days to unfavourable trending topics. Would be interested to know other examples of prominent politicians doing this. I'm pretty sure I recall a British politician doing this a year or two ago. I can't remember exactly who it was or what it was about, but I rec…

The 'reclaim' phenomenon is quite old, and it has happened quite often in politics that a party or politician has defused a pejorative or satirical label by embracing it. The elephant and donkey mascots of the two main parties in the USA were originally used to lampoon them.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by EastOfTruth »

downandout wrote: post #527
lettergram wrote: post #468

For those who think this isn’t political, check out what they posted on the POTUS Twitter the day before https://twitter.com/potus/status/1451544259992203266 The goal of this is to reclaim “let’s go Brandon” and it’s obvious. EDIT: for those who don’t know what “Let’s go Brandon” means, a child comment linked to a 40 second video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ8asiDn2_A&feature=youtu.be For those who don’t watch or…

This is a fascinating tweet on many levels. 1) I think it's safe to assume that Joe Biden has no SEO expertise, which means that someone with the power to send the President of the United States out for a photo op does. They went out and found someone named Brandon for Biden to pose for a photo op with. 2) To me it's terrifying that Presidential actions are now being dictated by SEO concerns, but it is interesting. 3…

Is the full video of that town hall meeting available anywhere?
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