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1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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And has zero native syncing functionality being presented by 1Password across every platform on the planet.

psst, for many of us 1password of old not having any native syncing functionality WAS A FEATURE.

But for 1Password "us" was the general population, not highly skilled computer engineers.

We're not the primary target audience for 1Password, we just happen to fit under the umbrella anyway.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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This is terrible news. I am thinking the push to subscription related to their recent fundraising round.

I am happy paying upgrade price for each new version of 1Password but I hate the idea of a subscription.

Dropbox syncing works well for me.

1Password has done almost everything they can to stop people from using the standalone version. I am disappointed and angry.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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I guess I’m the outlier in being very happy with 1Password and fine with paying for the subscription service. Not only is 1Password the best password manager I’ve used, but it makes it seamless to share stuff with my wife. I don’t care if 8 is an Electron app either, considering I usually interact with it via the browser anyway with their extension. (Also I know that the majority of what they wrote for it is Rust and…

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Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Question: you built it in Rust for performance reasons, right? Wouldn't Electron take it away?

The short answer is no. People often have misconceptions about Electron apps based on their experiences with a poorly written one. I've had my own fair share of bad experiences with Electron-driven apps. But the way we've utilized Electron is far different than most applications. Our Electron app is really only a thin client over a Rust-driven backend that handles all our business logic. We only invoke Typescript whe…

> People often have misconceptions about Electron

> Memory is still an issue with Electron

Sounds like their conceptions are correct.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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KeePass ( https://keepass.info/ ) with something like Nextcloud ( https://nextcloud.com/ ) or any other solution for syncing password databases across devices. Let's Encrypt SSL/TLS certificates are free, as is Apache/Nginx/Caddy to reverse proxy Nextcloud or any other solution (if a web based interface is needed). You might also need something like ngrok ( https://ngrok.com/ ) for publically accessing the instance i…

The real question here is how much time it takes to setup this experience and how much time it takes to maintain. You could argue that the true cost is the labor cost of implementation and maintenance at your current pay rate.

Not too much time, honestly. I use KeePass+ synching and it was easy to setup. Synching is generally useful as well, besides password manager sharing.

After setup I rarely have to think about it, maybe manually synch a conflict between the dB's every 3 months or so.

Overall, _very_ happy with the setup.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

#556
I'm chillin with 1Password 4 or something. Presumably some MacOS update will break it due to their use of some hacky undocumented API (like Omnifocus2) but until that day comes I'm quite happy syncing to dropbox. I don't like the insecurity of having to pay for something that stores critical data on an ongoing basis. If it's optional, I can make that choice. I do also like a native mac experience.

That said, I'm sure a lot of people value their current offering for a variety of reasons, and it obviously makes good business sense. I've been burned by subscriptions in the past though, and I don't want to deal with that again if it can be avoided.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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You... just saved me many hours. My 2021 goal is to migrate from 1Password to Bitwarden. I’ve been putting it off as I still have half a year of my subscription. But that does make it easier. Thank you!

Heads up. I just tried to do this after comparing the features that I use and what I'm paying 1p vs. the bw rate. There seems to be no export mechanism from web access. I tried installing the (Linux) desktop client, which exports to a different file format from the one, single 1p format listed as supported by bw. Bw did not like it. I also could not get it to digest the json-like data in the alternative paste import…

I got Windows going on a throwaway VM and installed the 1P client. Took 30 mins to an hour but surely a better option than recreating your vault by hand

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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1Password used to be native on the Mac, and now it's an Electron app. I'm not going to be using 1Password for this reason, and I encourage you to do the same. Subscription business models and non-native apps are hallmarks of rot by VCs. Dump them!

When I was 18, I wrote some shareware and asked for $10 from those who used and liked the program. Lots of nice people from all over the planet sent in some money, and sometimes with letters. Most often it was a thank you note. Sometimes people requested more features in return for paying the requested amount. And occasionally they'd tack on whatever extra they thought those features were worth to them. (That amount…

Umm, the thousands of successful software companies before subscriptions, microtransactions and advertising were common in the software industry would like a word with you.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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> requiring two separate teams of platform developers for every feature we needed to implement So your margins are more important than your users’ native experiences. Got it.

I mean looking at this I can see why people came to the conclusion that this was primarily a move that VC funding caused even though AgileBits seem to vehemently deny this.

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Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Most likely because credit card forms are very often served in iframes. 1Password fills iframes too (though maybe only for cards, not sure).

1Password fills iframes based on their domain rather than the parents. If you have an entry in 1Password it will use the value for the domain of the iframe. I’ve gone so far as to test this. In my opinion this is the right security model

That definitely makes sense for logins.
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