TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app • Hacker News Board

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by xvector » Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 9:08 AM UTC

aerosmile wrote: post #235

cronix wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another thing Tik Tok does is get rid of people who are obese, queer, or otherwise the target of harassment. Their stance is it's easier to get rid of the person being made fun of or limit who can see their videos rather than the 10k people harassing them. > According to Netzpolitik, the social media company instructed moderators to find users who are “susceptible to harassment or cyberbullying based on their physica…

If you had an issue with Zuck calling early Facebook users "dumb f**ks," wait until you find out what's going on behind the closed Tik Tok doors. You have to remember - we're still in the honeymoon phase with Tik Tok and haven't learned to hate them yet. Once the media and all your friends start sharing hatred about Tik Tok, leaks are going to start coming out, and there will be all the other fun ways through which w…

Please support your argument with facts.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by yhoneycomb » Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 9:08 AM UTC

Idk why I come to this website. Constant hate against anything Chinese. It disgusts me that people are so xenophobic.

Cue the comments saying “it’s the CCP blah blah” Whatever. Literally every comment is always China bad. It’s so transparent.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by xvector » Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 9:09 AM UTC

bryceacc wrote: post #530

bllguo wrote: post #437

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are you being serious with that second link?

kinda funny how people must not realize literally every app is querying all that information all the time...

The sense of blind superiority on HN is getting very frustrating and Reddit-like.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by bodge5000 » Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 9:09 AM UTC

reggieband wrote: post #66

I like to think of TikTok as the crack cocaine of addictive social media. I used to think my dopamine receptors were burned out by the constant barrage of memes I received from reddit, Facebook and Twitter but TikTok proves they can refine that product to make it even more potent. When I visit reddit now it feels behind in the same way Facebook used to feel behind. Facebook's video feature (which they shove into my f…

> I like to think of TikTok as the crack cocaine of addictive social media

Even in as so much as the denial of it. A lot of "its not as bad as the other social drugs" in this thread.

I get it, people want to enjoy the thing they like and don't want to be made to feel bad about it. We're all guilty of that to some extent.

But outright denial that the thing you enjoy isn't absolutely pure and harmless is never healthy.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by xvector » Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 9:11 AM UTC

nielsbot wrote: post #286

x86_64Ubuntu wrote: post #261

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I would have to disagree with you about the anti-queer slant. Maye it's what I've tuned the algorithm to, but I see far, far, far more queer and people of color on TikTok than any media form I have previously encountered.

They can (and do?) definitely firewall US content from China content.

It's legally mandated. China's version of TikTok is a separate app called Douyin. The rest of the world gets a less restricted version.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by xvector » Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 9:12 AM UTC

ceejayoz wrote: post #154

Drew_ wrote: post #147

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You're not going to include the excerpt where a TikTok representative stated this was a bad practice and that they don't do those these things anymore?

I mean, that's about as credible as Facebook claiming to be turning over a new leaf on privacy, isn't it?

It harms your own credibility when you deliberately leave out relevant information to force your political/social stance.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by xvector » Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 9:14 AM UTC

TeeMassive wrote: post #424

cronix wrote: post #73

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Another thing Tik Tok does is get rid of people who are obese, queer, or otherwise the target of harassment. Their stance is it's easier to get rid of the person being made fun of or limit who can see their videos rather than the 10k people harassing them. > According to Netzpolitik, the social media company instructed moderators to find users who are “susceptible to harassment or cyberbullying based on their physica…

> Another thing Tik Tok does is get rid of people who are obese, queer, or otherwise the target of harassment. Their stance is it's easier to get rid of the person being made fun of or limit who can see their videos rather than the 10k people harassing them. This is not unlike how the power that be in China do their business. Harmony at all costs, even if it means suppressing those who got screwed over.

Pretty sick of people who haven't used TikTok spreading bullshit like this. TikTok might just be the queerest and most inclusive platform on the internet today. Maybe y'all should actually try it before spreading misinformation.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by freedomben » Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 9:14 AM UTC

romwell wrote: post #534

ridaj wrote: post #525

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One thing to watch out for will be the treatment of divisive topics. It's eaten up so much of classic social media players because divisive content does well in terms of raw engagement, but it's not been my experience on TikTok. I wonder if there is explicit anti-divisiveness bias in the consumption experience.

I really like the comment you made, as it's constructive: "I wonder what makes TikTok different from other social networks regarding divisiveness" is an interesting question that adds value to the discussion. It's an invitation to ponder, research, and share perspectives. It differs from the ones before it: "You like it now, but give it time, it will be bad just like the rest" is not a statement of the same kind. It'…

I'm in agreement with your perspective, but:

> See, you just made a constructive comment!

Came off as very patronizing, and even infantilizing. GP is not even part of the disagreement above. They just made a good comment. It seems like you are lumping them together with the others that you are bothered by. If you just removed the quoted section then you're reply is otherwise great.

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by xvector » Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 9:15 AM UTC

tablespoon wrote: post #58

mrtksn wrote: post #25

I'm a huge fan of TikTok because after years of content stagnation and dullness, the internet is fun again. Especially places like Twitter and Instagram are outrage and depression inducers for me, consumed together it feels like the society is collapsing but everyone is living a perfect life at the same time. The China thing is touchy but I want the west to beat them by being better, not by being dismissive and prote…

> The China thing is touchy but I want the west to beat them by being better, not by being dismissive and protectionist. I don't think the only question is "who wins at having the most popular social network." The more concerning one is of exerting political influence through manipulative amplification/suppression (which is something the PRC has a lot of experience with). That could be both highly effective and extre…

What is stopping Facebook or Google from doing this for their own political goals?

Did y'all just forget Cambridge Analytica?

Re: TikTok overtakes Facebook as most downloaded app

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Post by IkmoIkmo » Wed, Aug 11, 2021, 9:17 AM UTC

underwater wrote: post #184

I'm baffled by the glowing endorsements of TikTok on Hacker News of all places. TikTok content comes across as completely vapid. It's like the worst possible mashup of bad television and social media. As a company TikTok seems to have zero goals beyond increasing engagement.

I just downloaded it and tried the first 100 TikToks after expressing my interests explicitly and putting 'personalised' ads and app sharing on... I know it takes a while to get an algorithm going but, I was thoroughly bored with all of the content.

I also saw a lot of content I'd already seen before. A lot of people mentioned they see TikTok content on YT, reddit, FB. I also see it the other way around, including plenty of classic meme content from years ago before TikTok even existed.

Can the people who're so glowing about tiktok please post their top 3 interesting accounts? At this point I'm not sure whether I'm looking at other stuff, or that my judgement of the same stuff is just different.