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Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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I hate this as well. When I take my family out for dinner, I'm the only person out of 5 with a phone that can use the digital menus, and often I'd prefer to not even have mine with me (I like to leave my phone at home just wear my watch on date nights with the wife for example).

As a result, I always ask for physical menus, and 99% of restaurants are happy to give them to me.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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I seriously hope Google pushes their OEM to include QR code support in the builtin camera app. This should be a default feature. That said, if you want a privacy-friendly QR Code reader app on Android, Binary Eye is my recommendation. GitHub: https://github.com/markusfisch/BinaryEye Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.markusfisch... F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/packages/de.markusfisch.android…

It's called "Lens" mode in the camera app, and isn't obvious to find, but it's there.

The average person expects the camera to simply recognize them by merely detecting one in the viewfinder, they don't expect to download an app or press a button to enable the feature.

It's seamless on iOS and on many (but not all) Android camera app.

Also, Lens is most likely uploading all sort of data directly to Google, not the best solution for a privacy-conscious person (I'm aware of the irony of privacy implication when talking of Android, but it's either that or the walled garden of Apple).

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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Yes, that or taking photos of each page and then browsing them on the phone. Either way it's worse than a good phone menu. Personally I'd rather have a paper menu, but digital ones can definitely be more accessible for low vision. I say can because half of the digital ones are godawful UX disasters.

Oh certainly. Put the QR code on the paper menu.

Sure, and go back to having to reprint all the menus every time you want to change something or update prices, needing extras for when menus get destroyed, paying people to wipe menus down if you have them laminated, etc.

As much as I prefer paper menus, I don't think the restaurants that have switched are going to go back to it. Would have better luck pressuring them to have less shit electronic menus.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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It's really interesting to see how a crowd of tech workers who generally are trying to pave the way are so quick to attack and be negative. Like all things in life, when its implemented well it works and when it does not it is terrible. I still think there is room for this to be the future though. I say this as a westerner but perhaps the west is not ready for it yet but I really enjoyed the experience of using QR co…

> I say this as a westerner but perhaps the west is not ready for it yet This seems like an odd take. I'd be interested in tangible data, but I'd be inclined to believe that most tech-affluent people are probably OK with QR codes being the norm, in general. It saves money, paper, and isn't really a hard step for anyone with a phone. In general the west is pretty pro-tech.

> I'd be inclined to believe that most tech-affluent people are probably OK with QR codes being the norm, in general

Everyone I know, "tech-affluent" and tech-savvy alike, hate them. Next time you go out for a meal with a large group, ask for physical menus and gauge the reaction of those around you - likely that most of them will ask for one too.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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What will actually happen is QR code menu experiences will get better, and paper menus will ... stay stagnant. A tale as old as time

That's great! As other commenters here have mentioned an online menu accessed by a QR code can have lots of extra features: multiple languages, filters for gluten/nuts/etc. Meanwhile since I, speaking the local language and not having special dietary needs, want to look at a paper menu while my fone stays in my pocket. I don't think anyone is actually arguing against having the QR/online menu. That's a great thing. W…

Have you actually been to anywhere that has refused to give you a paper menu? Everywhere I’ve been lately has either clearly had a stack of menus up front that you can grab on the way to your table or the waitstaff has given us (typically fewer than are in our party) paper menus. Typically one or two of us will use the paper menu and the rest will use the digital menu.

Payment by QR on the receipt, however, is absolutely fantastic. A place near me uses Toast and it just opens an app clip, has me review my receipt, touch Apple Pay, and I’m done. I’ve always felt uncomfortable giving my server full access to my debit card details just to pay for a meal.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

#556
> Have you gone to a restaurant with your boomer parents during the pandemic?

Have you gone to a restaurant with your boomer parents before the pandemic? They still pull out their phone to use the flashlight or even take photos of the menu so they can zoom in.

This piece is bizarre in that they say they don't like something, give a BUNCH of reasons why other people might like it, then just dismiss it entirely because they don't like it.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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My big issue, which should be easily correctable, is that every menu QR code I've scanned results in a PDF that I have to download. Nobody wants PDFs. On desktop sites, it's common to add a (PDF Warning) to links that lead to PDFs. And on a phone, PDFs are even worse. They're almost always sized for the desktop, which means you have to pinch and scroll to see anything, and I don't download stuff from Firefox often en…

Which mobile browser downloads PDFs instead of just rendering them?

Firefox Mobile

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

#559

It's really interesting to see how a crowd of tech workers who generally are trying to pave the way are so quick to attack and be negative. Like all things in life, when its implemented well it works and when it does not it is terrible. I still think there is room for this to be the future though. I say this as a westerner but perhaps the west is not ready for it yet but I really enjoyed the experience of using QR co…

This process was one of my most hated "innovations" in food ordering in China. It turns every restaurant into a production line fast food operation, exactly like American chain restaurants. At that point, why even bother going to a restaurant at all? Might as well just order a Sysco-equivalent microwave meal at the supermarket or 7/11, because the flavor and the service will be exactly the same. For me the best resta…

How does ordering via QR code change the quality of the food itself? Just because you clicked a button to order the food instead of telling a server what you want who then wrote it in a notebook and went back to a terminal to enter it, should not have any bearing on how the food tastes.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

#560

It's really interesting to see how a crowd of tech workers who generally are trying to pave the way are so quick to attack and be negative. Like all things in life, when its implemented well it works and when it does not it is terrible. I still think there is room for this to be the future though. I say this as a westerner but perhaps the west is not ready for it yet but I really enjoyed the experience of using QR co…

Already in the US, I'm seeing some restaurants where you pay right at the table as well.

In NYC, you can see this at World's Wurst [1] in SoHo.

[1] https://www.google.com/maps/place/World's+Wurst/@40.7279645,...

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