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Re: Fastly Outage

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Do more rely on Cloudflare? Because this felt like it was more than half the internet, certainly more than half the biggest sites.

I think so, Fastly seems to have a few huge enterprise clients while Cloudflare seems more balanced (and larger)

I think that Fastly starts at $50/month, no free tier. So that would preclude small or not-profit-motivated sites from using it.

Re: Fastly Outage

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That sounds antithetical to the purpose of emojis.

Vendors don’t even agree on whether the :gun: is a revolver or an automatic or space ray guns or even water guns, btw it’s an 1911 in original DoCoMo emojis 1: https://blog.emojipedia.org/content/images/2018/04/microsoft...

Sure, that's a benefit of emojis being semantic. If you want 'SFW' emojis, you can get them. Converting them to images makes that impossible. And uses vastly more bandwidth, makes them impossible to copy+paste, probably has accessibility issues, etc.

Re: Fastly Outage

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This seems to be impacting a number of huge sites, including the UK government website[0]. [0] https://www.gov.uk/ https://m.media-amazon.com/ https://pages.github.com/ https://www.paypal.com/ https://stackoverflow.com/ https://nytimes.com/ Edit: Fastly's incident report status page: https://status.fastly.com/incidents/vpk0ssybt3bj

Is their anything these big sites could do in this situation, or must they choose between running and maintaining all of their own infra or relying on a single CDN?

If you have absolutely vanilla CDN requirements, you can run multiple CDNs and fail-over or load balance between them using DNS.

Quite a few Fastly customers have more than vanilla requirements though, and may have a lot of business logic performed within the CDN itself. That Fastly is "just Varnish" and you can perform powerful traffic manipulation is one of it's main selling points.

Re: Fastly Outage

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Now imagine how many sites would go down if it was CF

Is this a call for competition? I regard Cloudflare as state-of-the-art in terms of security and ease-of-use. I certainly hope their knowledge replicates across other organizations. As of now they're still building highly impactful tools that are easy to use and that noone else quite provides. I don't really expect another organization to match them given the strength of their current leadership. I think they've buil…

They have also been responsible for one the worst security incidents ever:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13718752

Only discovered we should not forget,due to the good graces of google project zero.

A certain those of skepticism towards any technical offer out there would be advised.

Re: Fastly Outage

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Oddly their homepage rendering an error was a more accurate description of the problem than "investigating potential impact to performance with our CDN"

Stuff is down across the web, but the most it says is “degraded performance” and in my area it’s all green even though the sites are still down.

> Fastly’s network has built-in redundancies and automatic failover routing to ensure optimal performance and uptime. But when a network issue does arise, we think our customers deserve clear, transparent communication so they can maintain trust in our service and our team.

What a joke!

Re: Fastly Outage

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Over one issue that highlights they have an abundance of top level customers? Interesting strategy when it's already at a low.

One issue that should have been mitigated at least by Fastly; worse if the client has to do it. They proudly stated this from their own website to their customers: > "Fastly’s network has built-in redundancies and automatic failover routing to ensure optimal performance and uptime." If that isn't one huge lie, I don't know what is.

Please don't call it a lie. It means that they knowingly presented something they knew to be false as the truth. So far I have seen no evidence to support that.

Re: Fastly Outage

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Yeah so it's been mentioned in the comments already, but to everyone in Fastly right now: I feel for you. Something like this must be insanely stressful, and not just during the outage. There will be (should be) a massive post-mortem. People will be losing sleep over this for days, weeks, months. :( Edit: There seems to be a major empathy outage in this thread. Disgusted but not surprised, unfortunately.

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Re: Fastly Outage

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Yeah so it's been mentioned in the comments already, but to everyone in Fastly right now: I feel for you. Something like this must be insanely stressful, and not just during the outage. There will be (should be) a massive post-mortem. People will be losing sleep over this for days, weeks, months. :( Edit: There seems to be a major empathy outage in this thread. Disgusted but not surprised, unfortunately.

Call me old fashioned but the latest trend of showing "empathy" for a serious incident, then proceeding to dance around the aftermath of it, whilst people give themselves a pat on back in a retro/post-mortem, isn't the way to do it. People need to be blamed, and responsibility for actions taken (without covering asses)

> People need to be blamed, and responsibility for actions taken (without covering asses)

This. When people talk about "HugOps", "empathy" and all that when a worldwide incident affecting a huge amount of time critical customers (e.g. trading, hft, cargo, food delivery, etc.) is happening for an hour, it has catastrophic consequences.

I hope the engineers also understand the other side and why we are paying huge sums of cash for their service.

Re: Fastly Outage

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That sounds antithetical to the purpose of emojis.

Same reason why Gmail uses their own emojis rather than the system ones — (as said above) branding. When you send a tweet, Twitter wants it to look identical across all devices. The classic native UI vs cross-platform UI debate in a nutshell.

Cool, so instead of actually serving text, they could also just serve up little SVGs for each letter. Because god forbid the recipient chooses a different font than Gmail!
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