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Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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I mean he can lie right? Like I said, it's a conflict of interest. Most of the things I remarked on are 50/50 in the sense that I'm only 50% sure something sketchy is going on, worth remarking on, but I am not confirming anything. But Dangs post here looks like a freaking announcement where the intention is to indeed pin it at the top of the thread with fake upvotes or whatever mechanism they use with this site. This…

So instead of good faith conversation, you just opted for conspiracy babble?

No instead of blind faith I choose to not trust someone with a conflict of interest. You choose to give him your blind faith and call any form of doubt a conspiracy bubble.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Looks like this prompted another founder to post that they were kicked out 2 weeks ago for a different incident: https://twitter.com/ekadamer/status/1400956227501318146

Very concerning thread. Maybe worse are the replies defending YC e.g https://twitter.com/figputt/status/1401050235141558274?s=19

Hopefully YC doesn't pull a coinbase/Basecamp after this.

Just because you have an private internal forum doesn't mean people should need to treat it like fight club, or be concerned about their place in the club for calling out bad behaviour.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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post #392

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Oh yes that's clear, but it's also bloody clever and you get points for that. I'm sorry if my reference seemed like a swipe; I was just trying to speak duck with you. When people say this kind of stuff to me, I try not to take it personally because the truth is that you don't know me and I don't know you; what you're saying is not what you think of me , it's what you think of the image that you've constructed from a…

I don’t know how you do this, dang, but I certainly wish I had your level of chill.

...also, thanks!

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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post #524

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You could just say “As there is a conflict of interest, I will not comment on the substance of this tweet.”

But that's not the reason and wouldn't be true. There's another aspect too: I try to avoid being a bloodless ghoul in communicating with this community. People here don't want stiff corporate pantomimes, and that suits me fine, because I would hate to do that; or rather I can't because my body would reject it. That's an old Willie Brown line btw.

Are you claiming you do not have a conflict of interest here?

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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You're response to my appreciation of moderation is ( while you are protesting against any moderation outside of the community ): > This is off topic. You are literally comparing things with ( in 1 post): China, covid, dictatorship, serial killers, censorship, educational creationism, biology in schools, ... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It's an upvoted comment by a moderator... Nothing more, nothing less. As I said before: chill. Ps. S…

>You are literally comparing things with ( in 1 post): China, covid, dictatorship, serial killers, censorship, educational creationism, biology in schools, ... Those are called examples. Examples in service of helping to illustrate a point that is still on topic. You on the other hand wanted to talk about things that were never remarked upon or even true. I never said anything about how dang should stop moderating an…

> Those are called examples.

No. It's whataboutism.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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So instead of good faith conversation, you just opted for conspiracy babble?

No instead of blind faith I choose to not trust someone with a conflict of interest. You choose to give him your blind faith and call any form of doubt a conspiracy bubble.

You literally ignore the basic facts that this thread wasn't deleted/flagged.

He didn't pin his comment as you claimed multiple times either.

It's not blind faith, but good faith based on Dang's > decade long track record on HN as moderator.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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post #524

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You could just say “As there is a conflict of interest, I will not comment on the substance of this tweet.”

But that's not the reason and wouldn't be true. There's another aspect too: I try to avoid being a bloodless ghoul in communicating with this community. People here don't want stiff corporate pantomimes, and that suits me fine, because I would hate to do that; or rather I can't because my body would reject it. That's an old Willie Brown line btw.

As a moderator of YC’s forum, you have a conflict of interest. That’s an objective fact.

Saying there is a conflict of interest is not saying that you actually feel conflicting motives. I’m not casting any doubt on that. The mere appearance of a conflict is sufficient, in typical circumstances where legal definitions are required.

Recognizing that the (appearance of) a conflict of interest exists and respecting it would go a heck of a lot further in garnering trust, IMHO.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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post #374

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My main confusion from the title was trying to figure out who "Lol" was and why "Lol" got kicked out. Took me a few minutes to realize it was LOL.

Well that nuance certainly escaped me. I suppose we can safely capitalize LOL in accordance with the site guidelines :)

It's only ethical that anyone who writes LOL should also actually Laugh Out Loud, otherwise it would be deceptive. Same thing for ROFL.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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post #518

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You're not addressing the point. You said he only downweights for one reason. Plainly, he has declared consistency in downweighting for many reasons. No amount of self justification changes the fact you said he ONLY downweights for one reason, and that's factually incorrect. What he did in this specific case? Different matter. What he does as a matter of both stated policy and declared intent and I would suggest, evi…

>Why can't you just accept that and say so? What's blocking you from acknowledging your own words are just incorrect? Very simple logic. He's in a position where he can lie. Conflict of interest. He's paid by the company who sponsors this news site. Why can't you get this simple logic through your head? >You said he only downweights for one reason. Please read my post. I said what I meant WAS THIS: The only thing Dan…

> Why can't you get this simple logic through your head?

Everyone knows he's paid by YC and almost everyone is taking his decade long track record into consideration as an excellent moderator + that he literally didn't do anything wrong here. You're trying to defend your allegation and everyone else doesn't agree with you.

> That's really all you need to get through your head

Perhaps the problem isn't someone else :)

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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So just so everyone has the full context: Oakland opened up its vaccination sites to more people on a shorter timeline than the rest of the state, in certain ZIP codes with disproportionately poor residents, in order to get vaccines to those disproportionately poor residents. I know this because this is how several of my friends who live in West Oakland got vaccinated ahead of the eligibility opening up in the rest o…

A friend of mine flew out from Zurich to CA to get a shot. They gave him one without checking anything. His response? “America has the best vaccine program on the planet. They have so many rules in Zurich that the confusion is holding things back. They’d rather throw away vaccines than break minor rules”. Vaccination should be easy, bureaucracy free and straightforward; especially now . I can understand age restricti…

> They gave him one without checking anything. His response? “America has the best vaccine program on the planet. They have so many rules in Zurich that the confusion is holding things back. They’d rather throw away vaccines than break minor rules”.

I live in Zurich, the vaccination program is crystal clear. If there are free slots, you can book an appointment. Up to recently, if you were not in a priority group (which are well-defined), you couldn't book. Now it's open to everyone. I haven't heard of vaccines thrown away.

I don't know what your friend found confusing in Zurich, or how he somehow concluded that flying long-distance during the pandemic to get a shot in CA is worth it.

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